How ♾️ - ♾️ differs from ♾️*0

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♾️ - ♾️, is ♾️ as well as any Real.

While ♾️*0 is equal to ♾️ (1-1) but also equals ♾️ (1-1+i -i) equals ♾️ - ♾️+♾️ i- ♾️ i equals any Complex Number!

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Infinity subtracted from infinity would be equivalent to zero.

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Nope. ♾️ - ♾️ is any Real. While ♾️ - Any Real is still ♾️.

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No ♾️ - ♾️ is 0. You can't have infinity have 2 different values in one equation. And something you learn in first grade - any number times 0 is zero.

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I really don't think I should explain why any number multiplied by 0 is 0.

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And don't you dare say I can't use infinity as a number because that's exactly what you do all the time.

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@Knight_king1014,
Infinity is a difficult concept to understand. As we all know, anything plus infinity is infinity.
3+♾️=♾️
If we rearrange this equation by subtracting three from each side, then ♾️=♾️-3
Then subtracting infinity from each side we get
♾️-♾️=3
And you can replace 3 with ANY Real Number. Let’s say any real number equals x.
x+♾️=♾️
♾️=♾️-x
♾️-♾️=-x
This is why arithmetic with infinity is quite forbidden.
Another way to think of it would be with sets.
Let [1, 2, 3, 4…] be an infinite set called A
Subtract three from it.
[ 4, 5, 6, 7…] and say it is called B
Therefore
B-A=3
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I’ve always liked the example of the Infinity Hotel that has an infinite number of rooms; there’s an conference with an infinite number of guests and every room is occupied.

Q: when a new guest arrives needing accommodation, how does the Hotel fit them in?

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Hilbert’s Hotel is one of the least of his achievements I promise you
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I've actually heard of that problem before but I don't remember the solution.

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#7 thank you for at least showing proof unlike... You know who.

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are yall math pophessors or smt

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like fr tho

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Nah just math enthusiasts
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David wrote:

I’ve always liked the example of the Infinity Hotel that has an infinite number of rooms; there’s an conference with an infinite number of guests and every room is occupied.

Q: when a new guest arrives needing accommodation, how does the Hotel fit them in?

You get every existing guest to move to the next room, so the guest in Room 1 moves to Room 2 while the guest in Room 2 moves to Room 3 and so on and so on. The new guest then moves into Room 1.

New Q: There's another conference, also with an infinite number of guests, that arrives needing accommodation - how does the Hotel fit them all in?

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Bruh stop going on about hilberts hotel. He’s got much more interesting things. His way to get desire for number theory was the craziest way I’ve heard
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But it’s just tell every guest to move to their room number multiplied by 2. 3 goes to 6, 99 goes to 198, etc…
Then all the infinite people can get the odd numbered rooms
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New Q: Are there different sizes of infinity, and if so, why? I expect a lot out of you if you know this one. The typical explanation will get a lot of pushback from me.
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You cannot simplify ♾️ = ♾️-X down to ♾️- ♾️ = X

Write it on paper, try it there
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You’d swap it around by communitive property of addition to ♾️ = -X + ♾️

Then subtracting infinity from BOTH sides you’d get [ DOES NOT EXIST = -X ]

Which makes no sense