I am an anti-theist

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That is, I am completely against all religion and believe that it is harmful to humanity. I know of at least two other anti-theists. One of them is a friend who is currently on a gap year, and begins studying electrical engineering at UCLan in September. The other was my A-Level Physics teacher.



Let me begin with why I believe religion is bad, an then I will go onto how we can combat it.



Religion teaches us to not question. Why is the sky blue? Because the invisible man in the sky wanted it to be. Why did it rain today? Because the invisible man in the sky wanted it to.



It's seriously like that. Not to mention the fact that the God Hypothesis has several logical fallacies, the main one is explained below:



- In order to explain the origin of the universe, you invoked the God Hypothesis. This claims that the universe was created by a God. Great. You have successfully dodged the question of the origin of the uni... No. You haven't. You merely deflected the question and altered it slightly. It now becomes a question on the origin of God. Of course, you could say that God has always existed. But then God is more complex than the universe you are using him to explain the origin of. The universe is simple, and so invoking a complex god to create it is completely illogical. It's like learning to run before you learn to crawl.



Also, the sheer number of religions make it severely unlikely that any particular one is correct. The probability of any one religion being the correct one is probably negligible.



Then there is the lack of evidence. Of course, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but you would expect there to be some evidence. And if there isn't, you should keep an open mind. That means saying that there may or may not be a god This does not mean that religion is correct, because religion claims that there definitely is a god. This is not open minded



Now we move onto how religion spreads. It is taught to children. The children are taught to not question it, or feel the wrath of god. They are bullied. Then they grow up scared of god, and they believe what their parents tell them. They then pass on this religion to their children, and so on. As time goes on, the popularity of the religion increases. To avoid anyone losing faith in their religion, they claim that non-believers worship satan or some other BS.



The above message is simple. The children are told the 'answers'. They are told not to question these answers.



There is only one way to combat religion and that is with science. Science is the process by which mankind's knowledge is questioned. Nothing is known for certain. You look at both sides of the argument, and make a logical prediction. You then use experiment to test this prediction.



Teach science, not religion. Or if you do teach religion, teach all of them equally, so as to let the children decide. But don't give them answers. Teach them how to find the answers themselves, teach them how to be open minded, and teach them how to do science.



Thank you for reading

- brumtown
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Switch to Catholicism, brum, we take it easy.

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1. You didn't read any rules, we are not meant to talk about religion and/or politics.

2. I'm a chrsitain. I, and every other Christian I know often criticise and think about what they believe in- is it true?

I personally think it is, but I'm not sure- at all. So I am fine living my life, as I have a hope for what comes after, and I don't have to fear. And yes, I've taken the choice to believe what may just be a fantasy, as it makes myself happy, and, should it be true, will save my soul for thousands of years.
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And you have said you are again all religions, and so you insinuate there is no God, and thus you are not open minded.

Hypocritical, much?
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And you have no idea how most religions work.

Religious people tell their children that all non believers worship satan?!?!?!?!?? Never heard of that in my LIFE. I want a credible source to say that most religious people in modern, civilised (mainly western, as religion is open here) tell their children this. Ridicules.

"(1st paragraph) Religion is seriously like that"

Nope. In a catholic school I learnt that the sky is blue (I can't remember exactly) is because something about the blackness of space, but the sun lights that up to blue? (Okay, we didn't get taught that in school, but I imagine it is just the sun or the atmosphere or something. I've never been good at science. And I can't remember a thing from school)

And about the rain? Nope.

Because of depressions, and the water cycle, and all that stuff.
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So just check your facts before you post.
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I am open minded. I said that it is okay to say that there may or may not be a god. But religions claim that there definitely is a god and so are not open minded.
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brumtown wrote:

I am open minded. I said that it is okay to say that there may or may not be a god. But religions claim that there definitely is a god and so are not open minded.

Read Spinoza kid.

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The Universe is God

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"The universe is simple, and so invoking a complex god to create it is completely illogical."

Browntown...the universe is so not simple, according to your rating not even chess is simple.

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kaynight wrote:

God bless all atheists.

hahaha...that is funny because you said god bless them, but they don't believe in god but you kinda say you do and you feel sorry for them so god should bless them....actually it is not that funny.

I will give you 3/10 for this effort.

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kaynight wrote:

Please do not strain your singular brain cell over this.

This is no way to talk to the OP, he has an IQ of 154.

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Most none athiests have a belief in something but are not sure exactly what, which is fine, whereas religions claim to know all the details and teach it as fact which is nonesense. 

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Christians are not the neanderthals you think. We realize science exists. That alone should blow your mind. Also, if you want some real stuff, what was before the Big Bang? If there was stuff before it, what is the story of that. If you don't have a logical explanation for that, then for pity's sake get down off the soap-box. You are the one convincing. Yours is the burden of proof.
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So far all I got was a blast at Christian theology which was set up in a simple straw man fallacy. Also, your many religions low probability thing was silly. There are many possible answers to 2+2 but only 4 is the correct answer. Man that is a really low probability. There are thousands of other options, but only one is correct? Wowwwwwww.....
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Walking on water? Supernatural...
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Lol... you know my answer. Now, explain how something came from nothing in simple words.
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Do you guys actually not research stuff before you begin talking about it? :o
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Where there is quantum theory, there's hope.

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Maybe some modified form of loop quantum gravity
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