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Nov 10, 2016
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#64
'Tom' 'really liked' something, that 'troy' had to say! .. Did 'Tom' just {partially}, 'cave'?.. Stay tuned! ..lol
The man who talks about what will happen in the future, as a possibility, is ignorant.
I am not talking of the future.
And it is not 'in one own's thinking' simply because thinking cannot touch it. An image can't touch anything other than an image, not something which is not image.
This is the confusion with the so-called religious: he prays to an image which is born of fear. And a projection of fear and Truth--which is beyond all projections--don't go together, perception-wise.
The former is the real superstition, brought up by Tom earlier.
TomGa wrote:
I actually really like that Troy. That's beautiful to me.
It's a bit like how religious texts hint at truth so justice is a hint at true meaning perhaps.
Am I on the right track?
It's a bit like how religious texts hint at truth so justice is a hint at true meaning perhaps.
Am I on the right track?
Haha! The 'right track' comes after perception is in place.
There is no track which leads to perception.
Stolen_Authenticity wrote:
If, in your view 'troy'.. You, having obviously, long ago decided, that given Life's visicitudes, and various 'stuff'<-{my own description}, that can't be known definitively, in each one's own lifetime.. That 'suicide' is an up-to-the-present, 'Non-Starter' As your own mode-of-conduct; Then, how could that Not be regarded, as being essentially 'True', in your own thinking!?
But, for all I know.. Maybe the possibility, that you Might 'do-away-with-yourself' at a future point in time.. In your own mind; Makes, Any mode of your personal conduct, Inherently unable, to be classified, as 'True'!?
I haven't decided anything long ago. There is always a fresh looking.
There is no 'he' or 'she'.
It's just a self-warming thought which indicates the bowl is empty. One simply yearns for get they don't have.
But yearning for it can't touch it:it cannot be imagined. Imagination can't touch it.
But the superstitious is not free from imagination.
Nov 10, 2016
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#70
I'll return to my 'axe'..{'to grind'..ha!}.. But '1st things 1st'! ..In deference to my 'pc's, 'copy-and-paste' limitations. o:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/11/10/world-chess-world-championships/93605430/
Nov 10, 2016
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#71
..D-o-h ?! .. I guess the following, applies to one of us. Not saying, which one of us !?.. But, on That, we can agree, I think. o:
Then to quote is to talk. To use standards as guidelines is to use authority, which is based on fear.
Either way one looks at it, the mind which is not free from imagination has no business talking about Truth.
Nov 10, 2016
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#73
'troy' said - Then to quote is to talk. To use standards as guidelines is to use authority, which is based on fear.
Is it just me {?} ..Or is the root cause, of just about everything, in your paradigm 'troy' based on 'Fear'!? -- I'll let the 'readers' decide, {even if silently}, for themselves.
Btw, There's Nothing inherently wrong, as it concerns 'authority'.. And, I'm Not speaking, of the Overbearing kind! - In the extreme.. I suppose, one might argue, against the 'police's mere existence.. Or even for, a given person, exercising authority, against most anyone.. for most any reason! o:
If one accepts something because another said it, a shelter is formed. Insecurity at work.
Same with personal authority: where do you think that comes from? Society's authority is personal authority.
This is not a system--fear is a fact. But one must look at it.Imaginatipn creates fear, which in turn creates god--in the form of an image. It's not God, but the person doesn't see the difference and takes the image for the real thing. It's a self-defensive mechanism. The illusion fights for survival. Attention is non-existent.
Nov 10, 2016
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#75
Acceptance is a perspective. Not everyone has it, and some have less of it. Acceptance is one of those things we all want, but don't wish for. Instead, we find ourselves wishing for physical objects, from that we gain nothing.
There's a hole inside us, and there are many things we can try to fill it with. Most do what I said above, and fill it with objects. But they will never fit. Some just try to fill it with money, or friendship etc. But that hole will never be filled. As a result, we have a large hole right through our heart, and brain, and we don't know what to do with it. Nothing fits there. And the pressure of not knowing what to do with this hole drives us mad. We just need to have the right perspective, and accept the fact that nothing will be perfect. I've done this, and I hope you can too.
-ilikewindmills
There's a hole inside us, and there are many things we can try to fill it with. Most do what I said above, and fill it with objects. But they will never fit. Some just try to fill it with money, or friendship etc. But that hole will never be filled. As a result, we have a large hole right through our heart, and brain, and we don't know what to do with it. Nothing fits there. And the pressure of not knowing what to do with this hole drives us mad. We just need to have the right perspective, and accept the fact that nothing will be perfect. I've done this, and I hope you can too.
-ilikewindmills
Nov 11, 2016
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#76
Hey. A beautiful light blue sky. Soft white clouds. Rich blue sea. Pretty little ship. Love the coast.
Nov 11, 2016
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#78
Ilike. You're writing some really good stuff. I've wondered before if the ignorant are blessed. It's bliss not to wonder about our place in the world. But perhaps peace and joy come through understanding rather than oblivion.
Nov 11, 2016
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#79
Hmm. I'm interested in this objective meaning Troy that you refer to.
The meaning in my life. Beauty. What's that? Well I suppose behaviour of a type that's kind and thoughtful, selfless and brave. Beautiful.
But you see Troy without free will it just is you know. For example my wife is as beautiful as anyone you could meet but I recognise her behaviour is purely about causality and that my love for her is a natural reaction.
Troy you believe in something I don't.
SA believes in the self and God.
You Troy believe in neither of those and yet you hold it to be true that meaning exists.
I'm sorry but that to me makes no sense.
How would you quantify that meaning? Could you give me an example? Are you talking about pleasure and pain?
We are having a conversation and it's useful to use symbols!
That said I appreciate Jamaica means nothing to a person that has seen nothing of that country at all.
Still Troy its useful in a conversation to talk in a way that's recognisable to one another.
The meaning in my life. Beauty. What's that? Well I suppose behaviour of a type that's kind and thoughtful, selfless and brave. Beautiful.
But you see Troy without free will it just is you know. For example my wife is as beautiful as anyone you could meet but I recognise her behaviour is purely about causality and that my love for her is a natural reaction.
Troy you believe in something I don't.
SA believes in the self and God.
You Troy believe in neither of those and yet you hold it to be true that meaning exists.
I'm sorry but that to me makes no sense.
How would you quantify that meaning? Could you give me an example? Are you talking about pleasure and pain?
We are having a conversation and it's useful to use symbols!
That said I appreciate Jamaica means nothing to a person that has seen nothing of that country at all.
Still Troy its useful in a conversation to talk in a way that's recognisable to one another.
Nov 11, 2016
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#80
Troy shares a unique perspective as do I. We both are the sorts of people who express our emotion, and in fact that turns out to be helpful, or poetic. Most aren't brave enough to talk about themselves. Many resort to lying or copying others. For example, I find a lot of people writing in weird jumbled words, however, this kind of writing originated as Lenny_Bongcloud's thing. (This is not naming and shaming, in fact I'm giving credit). The innovators are those who are like him, or me, or Troy, and can share their opinion freely, or develop their own 'touch'.
Many are scared, but they shouldn't be. No one is looking at you. No one is there to offend you. It is unlikely that there is a person there to bring you down, in fact it is quite the opposite. Expressing yourself, rather than others, is a perfectly fine thing to do, and no one can harm you for this.
This is all linked to what I said last time. Look beyond perspective, and accept who you truly are. No one can stereotype you if they don't know how to. This is what the 'followers' can't understand.
-ilikewindmills
Many are scared, but they shouldn't be. No one is looking at you. No one is there to offend you. It is unlikely that there is a person there to bring you down, in fact it is quite the opposite. Expressing yourself, rather than others, is a perfectly fine thing to do, and no one can harm you for this.
This is all linked to what I said last time. Look beyond perspective, and accept who you truly are. No one can stereotype you if they don't know how to. This is what the 'followers' can't understand.
-ilikewindmills
It's a bit like how religious texts hint at truth so justice is a hint at true meaning perhaps.
Am I on the right track?