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The only truth is "there is no logic" as definitive abstractions must be implicitly concrete, therefore everything is relative and I do not exist. For exaple, you can say of course that 2 + 2 is four but in my language 2 + 2 = Monkey. Time is also relative to the present, making past and future instantations impossible. All statements are merely axioms. Truth is a function of faith, not ob "objective content" or thewhatnot.
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"All statements are merely axioms" HahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

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You ran into a paradox there buddy. Can't say "Nothing is real" because the statement itself contradicts its own thesis for its own "absolute reality" generalization, by its own "being" real. Contradictions are false, nuff said.

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Cubronzo wrote:
The only truth is "there is no logic" and I do not exist. For exaple, in my language 2 + 2 = Monkey. 

  Yes, I agree with you in a manner of speaking, you do not exist intellectually.

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Joseph-S wrote:

Cubronzo wrote:
The only truth is "there is no logic" and I do not exist. For exaple, in my language 2 + 2 = Monkey. 

  Yes, I agree with you in a manner of speaking, you do not exist intellectually.

I guess he's saying that because you and I have different ideas for what is true and what is false, it is impossible to prove that something is "true" because he thinks everything is subjective. He did say in a comment that he was a Postmodernist. Look it up and you will see.

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Cubronzo escribió:
. For exaple, you can say of course that 2 + 2 is four but in my language 2 + 2 = Monkey. 

 

Well, then please tell me your address so I can send you 20 boxes of condoms. Use them and never ever think about having children. 

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Are you trying to somehow defend his "2+2= Monkey" BS?

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intermediatedinoz wrote:

Our current senses of sophisticated, meaning either refined, cultured or highly developed, complicated, are surprisingly recent. The application of the word to people meaning experienced, refined can only be dated to 1895, when it appears in Thomas Hardy’s novel Jude the Obscure:

Though so sophisticated in many things she was such a child in others that this satisfied her.

The sense applied to things that are complex, advanced is even more recent. From C. S. Lewis’s 1945 science fiction novel That Hideous Strength:

The man was so very allusive and used gesture so extensively that Mark’s less sophisticated modes of communication were almost useless.

The noun sophisticate, meaning a worldly, cultured person, is from 1923.

Other senses of the adjective are older, however. Sophisticated originally meant mixed with a foreign substance, adulterated or altered from a natural state; a sense that dates to at least 1607, when it appears in Thomas Dekker’s play The Whore of Babylon:

The drinke euen in that golden cup, they sweare
Is wine sophisticated, that does runne
Low on the lees of error.

And when applied to literary works, sophisticated can mean having been altered during copying or printing.

It makes sense, then, that the adjective comes from the verb to sophisticate, meaning to mix with a foreign substance, which dates to around 1400 when it appears in a version of The Book of John Mandeville:

It fallez oft tyme þat marchands sophisticatez peper.
(It happens oftentimes that merchants sophisticate pepper.)

The English verb is taken from the Medieval Latin sophisticare, which in turn comes from the Greek σοφιστής (sophistes), meaning one who accepts payment for instruction. These sophists, were different from the philosophers, who engaged in intellectual pursuits and education for higher purposes and not for money, hence the sophists were considered by some to be tainted or adulterated by base and material motivations. As a result, their teachings became associated, often unfairly, with specious and poor reasoning, or sophistry. The Latin sophisma means a false conclusion or fallacy. Presumably by the time the verb appeared in English, this sense of false reasoning had given way to deception and adulteration of substances, as in the merchant adulterating the pepper in the Mandeville quotation, although the trail of citations is not complete enough to be absolutely sure that this is the semantic path the word took.

The key to understanding the modern shift in meaning of sophisticated is the sense of altered from a natural state. Something that is cultured or refined is also altered from its natural state. Also, something that is mixed or made up of many substances is complex.

So is Postmodernism related to Sophistry or logic through anti-logic? He does say that everything is relative and that there is no absolute truth, which I would describe more as a path block than a dead end in our understanding.

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Help me out

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Not everything is relative. 

In many things there is absolute truth. 

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Life is persistent.There must be a motive behind it.

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Geodexic wrote:

Life is persistent.There must be a motive behind it.

If life is originated from abiogenesis,then the persistence could come from unseen being.Or live have always been existed in any form.

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if there's no absolute truth then all equations in school are wrong.

 

what's concrete is the firm foundation to anything's actuality, but not from a temporal basis.

 

 

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chess is true

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Pashak1989 wrote:

Not everything is relative. 

In many things there is absolute truth. 

Example? , please.     

as many as possible.?  

of 'absolute truth', and also...

what is?

'absolute truth', if not 'everything'. ?

 

the universe is relative to itself...  much bigger than you

the universe knows what is going on...

humans do not

they think they do... due to social? conditioning?..[brainwash[

but?....  

this illusion will be squankled soon enough...

as sixth great extinction event...

picks up speed

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chesslife1821 wrote:

chess is true

chess.com is not.

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chess.com is for profit

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xoclueless wrote:

Pashak1989 wrote:

Not everything is relative. 

In many things there is absolute truth. 

Example? , please.     

as many as possible.?  

of 'absolute truth', and also...

what is?

'absolute truth', if not 'everything'. ?

 

the universe is relative to itself...  much bigger than you

the universe knows what is going on...

humans do not

they think they do... due to social? conditioning?..[brainwash[

but?....  

this illusion will be squankled soon enough...

as sixth great extinction event...

picks up speed

Truth is a product of logical consistency, where definitive axioms are implied and cohesion is possible. If all truth was relative, the mere act of perceiving would be impossible, and we would not be "real" in the sense of the word.

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ChumpDavis123 wrote:

xoclueless wrote:

Pashak1989 wrote:

Not everything is relative. 

In many things there is absolute truth. 

Example? , please.     

as many as possible.?  

of 'absolute truth', and also...

what is?

'absolute truth', if not 'everything'. ?

 

the universe is relative to itself...  much bigger than you

the universe knows what is going on...

humans do not

they think they do... due to social? conditioning?..[brainwash[

but?....  

this illusion will be squankled soon enough...

as sixth great extinction event...

picks up speed

Truth is a product of logical consistency, where definitive axioms are implied and cohesion is possible. If all truth was relative, the mere act of perceiving would be impossible, and we would not be "real" in the sense of the word.

Chris Langan is smart

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ChumpDavis123 wrote:

xoclueless wrote:

Pashak1989 wrote:

Not everything is relative. 

In many things there is absolute truth. 

Example? , please.     

as many as possible.?  

of 'absolute truth', and also...

what is?

'absolute truth', if not 'everything'. ?

 

the universe is relative to itself...  much bigger than you

the universe knows what is going on...

humans do not

they think they do... due to social? conditioning?..[brainwash[

but?....  

this illusion will be squankled soon enough...

as sixth great extinction event...

picks up speed

Truth is a product of logical consistency, where definitive axioms are implied and cohesion is possible. If all truth was relative, the mere act of perceiving would be impossible, and we would not be "real" in the sense of the word.

er, I meant Chump Davis

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Chump is wrong though