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noodles2112 wrote:

Obvious CGI was used for a lot of it. That much ought to be obvious.

I like when they say "this isn't real".... NASA is also well known for mocking the masses. 

Can you not see how this was done? Go to the 9 minute mark and watch how the earth changes shape right before your eyes. All the cuts/editing mean they did the anti-gravity scenes via parabolic maneuvers which can last between 30 and 45 seconds. NASA has referred to their Zero-G planes "Vomit Comets". 

They sure are going to extreme measures to try and keep a lid on the flat earth. Remember, Captain Kirk AKA William Shatner(actor) had to play his part several months ago with Bezos doing the exact same thing. 

Anyways, all one needs to see is how the earth changes shape right before their eyes in this video production to know this was a charade. It's main agenda is to keep the masses ignorant. 

So you're saying that Dude Perfect - the guys who have grown their YouTube channel by doing trick shots - are participating in a conspiracy theory about space; the folks who say that "The most important thing we have is Jesus" are working with NASA and the government - and Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk and everyone else who works at these organisations - to perpetuate this lie? If you can't see how patently ridiculous that is, it's no wonder that none of the evidence presented to you here is making one jot of difference. People who run their businesses that way go bankrupt, all the while saying "But I'm right!"

 

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There were not many people at that "event". Why is it so difficult to believe people Lie for Money etc.? You think all the TV evangelists are really preaching the gospel of Jesus altruistically? And could you not see the earth change shape as I pointed out to you? 

NASA is certainly not bankrupt, fleecing billions from taxpayers annually, some 50 plus million daily with CGI/Cartoon animations etc. etc. 

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noodles2112 wrote:

And could you not see the earth change shape as I pointed out to you?  

It tilted because the capsule tilted - it did not "change shape". 

Dude Perfect aren't involved in space, they don't don't have to do space related things to maintain that popularity or keep their jobs. You think if someone went up to them and offered them money to fake something that they'd accept it? They've turned down potential sports betting deals because they want to be a "trusted family entertainment brand" (https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2022/11/21/Portfolio/Dude-Perfect-side.aspx).

At what price point would you be wiling to spend money on one of these flights into space, just to do your best to debunk it? I wonder how long - if ever - it would take to get there, because it seems like that's the only thing that has a chance of breaking threough the wall you've built around yourself.

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   Stanley Kubrick staged the moon landings heh? meh  Noodles can't be saved.                                        https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2019/07/18/how-stanley-kubrick-staged-the-moon-landing-and-other-stories/

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No doubt Kubrick was connected with NASA. Heck NASA even let Kubrick borrow some rare lenses to film his movie Barry Lyndon. Kubrick also said he would not sign the contract with the movie studio unless they released Eyes Wide Shut on July 16, 1999 - 30 year anniversary of  Apollo 11. That is only the tip of the proverbial iceberg when it comes to the Kubrick/NASA connections. 

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RJC - one error I found in the article is that it was not OJ Simpson that showed up at his own funeral, it was James Brolin in the movie Capricorn One. 

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 Noodles, you're seeing shadows where there are none. Barrowing a lens doesn't constitute being in cahouts with NASA to fake the moon landings. meh

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noodles2112 wrote:

Elroch - please show me a NASA Neil DeGrasse Tyson photo of this oblate pear-shaped spheroid spinning around in space

All photos of the Earth from space - from the US, Russia, China. the UK and forty other countries! - show the Earth as it is, a "pear-shaped spheroid spinning ... in space" (as you correctly said).

It's close enough to spherical to miss the difference by eye, but known in precise detail to have a larger equator (due to rotation) and a very slightly larger Southern hemisphere. That's because competent people have measured that variation. Do you understand how competent people use tools to measure distances? I would guess you have used a tape measure, maybe even a more sophisticated measuring device?

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RJC - NASA doesn't just let anyone borrow whatever they want. My point was that NASA and Kubrick had a very unique relationship and those lenses were probably the most expensive/rare ones in the world. 

Elroch - So what you are saying is that all of NASA's pics of earth appear spherical but in reality they are pear-shaped. Ok. 

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So the jwst is working out perfectly as hoped for.  Given that it can see so far,  have the people controlling it pointed it to our closest star and it's surroundings?  Even looking at planets and moons in this solar system would be intriguing.  Although we likely already have better info and images of our solar system than the jwst can provide. 

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noodles2112 wrote:

Elroch - So what you are saying is that all of NASA's pics of earth appear spherical but in reality they are pear-shaped. Ok. 

Yes. The concept of something being very similar but not the same is one that comes more easily to many people.

Back to an earlier point - are you familiar with the use of tape measures? How about laser measuring devices (now cheaply available for anyyone to use)?

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DreamscapeHorizons wrote:

So the jwst is working out perfectly as hoped for.  Given that it can see so far,  have the people controlling it pointed it to our closest star and it's surroundings?

When I read that at first I thought you meant our Sun! Of course JWST cannot point towards our Sun as this would damage it. A lot of effort is taken to protect it from the massive energy pouring from the Sun.

JWST is looking at some nearby stars. Its first detection of an Earth-like planet was around a star 41 light years away.

 Even looking at planets and moons in this solar system would be intriguing.  

There is a large program of planned observations of our Solar System - it can look at all the objects except those too near the Sun ("Mercury, Venus, Earth, the Moon, and objects interior to Earth’s orbit") Although we likely already have better info and images of our solar system than the jwst can provide. Actually it can add even better information than Hubble, especially at longer wavelengths.

 

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 I am familiar with tape measures for it is a necessary instrument in the tile business. Some like to use lasers so they can measure distances as well as the levelness of a surface.  Many have used lasers to prove the level/flatness of the earths surface/nonexistent curvature. 

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Like this one? A flat Earth who does an experiment with a laser that goes badly wrong. While it's interesting that he messes up the calculation of drop (see the analysis in the video, the flat Earther forgot that his line passed through TWO points at the same height above the ground. I think you would understand this, noodles), the best thing is that he accidentally demonstrates the curvature of the Earth rather precisely (once his wrong calculation is fixed)!

 

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The Michelsen/Morley experiment was the one that was a complete embarrassment for the scientific community which proved the earth stationary. Hence, Einstein to the rescue. Even Einstein/others had to concede that a geocentric model could only be excluded on philosophical grounds. 

Not sure how they are going to spin this latest embarrassment of a helium balloon satellite story. More evidence against their so-called "outer space" satellites.  

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A stationary Earth fails to explain the universal constancy of the speed of light.

Satellites orbit at hundreds of miles altitude at 5 miles per second. Balloons don't. Hugely different in both respects.

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Well, NASA is the largest consumer of helium on earth. If one actually does the research they would soon discover that NASA has been launching helium balloon satellites since the late 50's/early 60's and has NEVER stopped. 

What is the point of that if they also put satellites in "outer space" as they claim to do?

Google doesn't even hide the fact that they use helium balloon satellites. 

So what is the speed of light or is there a measurable speed? I was taught 186,000 miles per second. But now I see that is being disputed in the scientific communities. 

Also, I thought there were allegedly 2 kinds of orbiting satellites. Geostationary/Geosynchronous. They also claim to have satellites anywhere from 300 miles above earth to nearly 1000 miles above earth. They are assumed to be in the thermosphere where they also claim the temperature is so hot it can melt steel/titanium. If that were true, then these flimsy looking satellites would never work in such an environment. 

NASA has far too many claims that cannot be proven. I suppose that is why they rely on mass propaganda methods/techniques. 

 

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           NASA has far too many claims that cannot be proven. I suppose that is why they rely on mass propaganda methods/techniques.             

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LOL

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It's not a joke!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/15/seven-percent-of-americans-think-chocolate-milk-comes-from-brown-cows-and-thats-not-even-the-scary-part/