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Apr 1, 2016
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#41
Hello guys . I'm going to catch up with all the posts . It's great to be back and believe me I'll show you guys I'm making progress .
SA...tom is a devout atheist. Your bible thumping is really boring. Long posts of Scripture just don't cut it.
Apr 1, 2016
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#44
Boring for who ? boring as catastrophics centuries ago?
Tom is not of any system . - ISM : means a system, some atheists are bigots obssessed by atheism, as a system of life;
SA is not really boring , except for people bored by life, me I think i guess..
this thread is something, what we are season 4. Guest star : fB. Same stuntman, same result, badaboof;, pflaster?
Apr 1, 2016
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#45
I would think 'mds' that how my posts 'bounce off' you; Is Not necessarily the same with All! {d-u-h?!}. -- Anyway -'JC' foreknew, that only a minority of all of those who were made aware of His message, would be receptive to it.
Which, according to Scripture, is why He spoke in 'parables'! ..Eg. In so many words; So the 'Truth' would be hidden from those who were Not meant to receive it; Lest, all {or most everyone}; Come to accept 'Truth' for what it {He}, is/ was; Come to a 'Saving' knowledge of the 'Way-of-the-Cross'; And which ironically; by that very 'hypothetical' mass acceptance, of His message; Would make 'Cavalry'/'the Cross' that much harder, to bring about!
Yep; Even our Creator, interferes {to an unquantified degree} in our 'free will'; As is His sovereign right! 0:
Apr 1, 2016
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#46
Pulp 18. I like that notion . That our lives are temporary make them more worthwhile rather than less . I certainly believe everything is natural but perhaps it's the thought that life belongs to you that makes you see things as temporary . Maybe life doesn't belong to you
Apr 1, 2016
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#47
Paul at 17.
I like that . I like the idea that we can reach new levels of understanding . I hope to myself
I like that . I like the idea that we can reach new levels of understanding . I hope to myself
SA writes:
Which, according to Scripture, is why He spoke in 'parables'! ..Eg. In so many words; So the 'Truth' would be hidden from those who were Not meant to receive it;
Can you even begin to realize the hypocrisy of this statement? Not "meant to receive his message" ??
You're telling me Jesus discriminated on who should receive his teachings ?
That's bs of the highest order. I suggest getting an education of Bible study before thumping nonsense.
Apr 1, 2016
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#49
Md at 44. It's true that I hold it to be true that everything is natural (not divine ).
However I'm hear to Omfoc and if I see God believe me I'll state it .
Anyway I love everyone and am interested in everyone and sa is as welcome as everyone and everyone else .
However I'm hear to Omfoc and if I see God believe me I'll state it .
Anyway I love everyone and am interested in everyone and sa is as welcome as everyone and everyone else .
Apr 1, 2016
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#52
'mds' said:
You're telling me Jesus discriminated on who should receive his teachings ?That's bs of the highest form.
Hardly; In fact, Not-at-all! .. It stands to, at Least, arguable reason; That God's sovereign 'rights' {if-you-will}; Encompass, Many areas; Including, Not, {at times}; Leaving human-free-will, to the uninterfered with, choosing, of a given person.
Did, you ever pay attention, to the 'OT' passage; 'And then "God, 'hardened' Pharoah's heart"; I.e. Resulting, in 'Pharoah's continued 'cracking down' on the rebellious 'slave-Jews'; Which paved-the-way' for one of the handful{?} of times, that human history, was Supernaturally interfered with; As in the, 7 {I think} 'plagues' affecting ancient Egypt; The 'parting'-of-the-'Red-Sea'.. The 'cloud-by-day' and '{pillar of} 'Fire-by-night'; Plus, the introduction, of the '10 Commandments.'
A fictional 'fairy tale'? .. Well, if you want to {conveniently}, believe that, {in agreement, with your 'fallen' nature/ understanding}; There's certainly, No stopping, you-or-anyone, from thinking that! .. A-ha! 'Free-will' re-surfaces! [ :
#47: but what do you understand as "life"? Life is the bunch of living beings. My life doesn't belong to me, my life is me.
you could also say 1) when you harden yourself God will sometimes make your decision final as a warning to others. 2) the Pharisees did not want to learn, so God gave them their wish. you will notice that the ones who wanted to learn I.e Nicodemus understood.
Pulpofeira a écrit :
not if God created you
#47: but what do you understand as "life"? Life is the bunch of living beings. My life doesn't belong to me, my life is me.
Tom believes in "determinism" I believe (if you never noticed). Einstein did as well...and Hawking is an aetheist...other geniuses believe in various gods...basically, no one really knows what is going on...our three grey cells can't comprehend it...
Chicken_Monster wrote:
Tom believes in "determinism" I believe (if you never noticed). Einstein did as well...and Hawking is an aetheist...other geniuses believe in various gods...basically, no one really knows what is going on...our three grey cells can't comprehend it...
No person might, but God does, and he shows us whats going on in his book, the Bible
God is the author ?
Apr 1, 2016
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#60
Obviously; There's divided opinion, as it were; Between those who 'believe'; Those who don't; And, the undecided - of varying shades & persuaisions.
This of course, is nothing out-of-the-ordinary; As even in "Acts 14: v.'1-to-4'; It makes passing reference, to 'unbelieving Jews'; And, by inference; Those {Jews} who believed. {not that you're necessarily 'Jewish'!?}.
For-the-record; I personally Don't believe that, if one perhaps - does Not have 'Faith'.. That, God/'JC'.. will have nothing further, to do with that person; In the way of a continuing 'overture' {through 'nature' or the conscience}; And-or, a 'witness.' - Even, if it's through the 'non-conformist' approach, of myself! 0: ..{Your next step: 'Google- translator'! ..lol}