On the downside to monetary policy, if we get banks to have minimal reserves, tons of debt and to invest in the economy, what if we get deeper into recession?
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Dec 6, 2025
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#370
Art is when somebody creates it with their own soul and their own heart not when some AI just turn it out. You think when you are, you can take months to make one painting meanwhile I can do it in one minute with five words that is not true art. You have to poor thought and heart into art but it’s just slop because of computers and AI now.
(Also sry for the bad grammar I was using text to speech)
(Also sry for the bad grammar I was using text to speech)
i hate ai and i hate how it’s so easily used.. but it’s just reality. which is fkn dumb considering i wanna make my career in the music industry. but eventually it’ll be normal and advancements like this are normal. i comfort myself by saying that human music will never be fully taken over by ai because of its human value :) to answer your question abt ai art being art its like if you went back to idk the 1800s and asking if photography was real art. at the time ppl maybe felt to same way as we do with ai saying “no! photography takes no skill in compared to drawing and painting!” which can be true, but now we view cameras as a tool and in all these years of having cameras, drawing and painting art hasn’t been completely taken over. there’s still an appreciation for skill.
Dec 6, 2025
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#372
Thought: ANYTHING can be art. Why do you think a banana duct-taped to a wall sold for like $2 million? It’s not necessary what the art IS, the WORTH of it is from what people are WILLING to pay for it.
It’s sort of the same thing with cash. Why is THIS piece of paper worth $100, while this OTHER piece of paper is completely worthless? It’s because we, as human beings, CHOSE to make that $100 bill worth something
It’s sort of the same thing with cash. Why is THIS piece of paper worth $100, while this OTHER piece of paper is completely worthless? It’s because we, as human beings, CHOSE to make that $100 bill worth something
if you hand draw an incredible portrait versus taking a photo, ppl will be more impressed by the drawing because it took skill. if you present a piece of ai music or art, and compare it to human made music or art, sure the ai product may be really good maybe even better, but people will love the human product better
Dec 6, 2025
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#374
The thing is there are a TON of instances in the art world where art pieces that seemingly take little to no effort sell for a RIDICULOUS amount of money. Like when a piece from an artist was shredded, and it was still bought, ripped in pieces, for like a million bucks.
So is it really who makes the art? Is it the art itself? Or is it just people willing to pay for something, even though it has little to no value?
So is it really who makes the art? Is it the art itself? Or is it just people willing to pay for something, even though it has little to no value?
Dec 7, 2025
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#375
FlareTheBlitz wrote:
Thought: ANYTHING can be art. Why do you think a banana duct-taped to a wall sold for like $2 million? It’s not necessary what the art IS, the WORTH of it is from what people are WILLING to pay for it.
It’s sort of the same thing with cash. Why is THIS piece of paper worth $100, while this OTHER piece of paper is completely worthless? It’s because we, as human beings, CHOSE to make that $100 bill worth something
It’s sort of the same thing with cash. Why is THIS piece of paper worth $100, while this OTHER piece of paper is completely worthless? It’s because we, as human beings, CHOSE to make that $100 bill worth something
I remember doing an essay like this. The reason art is art according to Leo Tolstoy was if people put thought into it, had an emotion while creating it, and was trying to convey that emotion through the art.
For example, The Fountain by Duchamp was literally just a urinal, but the art was in putting the urinal there and calling it art. AI art on the other hand is a bit more dubious because there was no thought other a than a prompt put into it. Unless that could be considered attempting to convey a message.
This doesn't mean AI art is bad though. When people use it simply to help a point or convey a message, there is no harm. The real harm is when people sell it as their own.
Dec 7, 2025
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#376
OnyxTheBean wrote:
Art is when somebody creates it with their own soul and their own heart not when some AI just turn it out. You think when you are, you can take months to make one painting meanwhile I can do it in one minute with five words that is not true art. You have to poor thought and heart into art but it’s just slop because of computers and AI now.
(Also sry for the bad grammar I was using text to speech)
(Also sry for the bad grammar I was using text to speech)
True. There are a few authorities on the topic of art, one of them Leo Tolstoy. He described art as I said in the last post, "The reason art is art according to Leo Tolstoy was if people put thought into it, had an emotion while creating it, and was trying to convey that emotion through the art.". AI art probably isn't art because while it might convey some emotion there was no real thought into it and it probably won't make people think.
Dec 7, 2025
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#377
FlareTheBlitz wrote:
The thing is there are a TON of instances in the art world where art pieces that seemingly take little to no effort sell for a RIDICULOUS amount of money. Like when a piece from an artist was shredded, and it was still bought, ripped in pieces, for like a million bucks.
So is it really who makes the art? Is it the art itself? Or is it just people willing to pay for something, even though it has little to no value?
So is it really who makes the art? Is it the art itself? Or is it just people willing to pay for something, even though it has little to no value?
Now that was definitely art. Like I said, the art was not only in thought of the painting but also the action of shredding the painting.
Dec 7, 2025
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#378
Dec 7, 2025
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#379
Duchamp’s opinion is anything you call art is art. Who’s to say what art is or isn’t?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general-chess-discussion/skibidi-chess-117909892
I have been advocating for a mix where the government hires more workers as well, but jobs to create money, which creates demand, so monetary solves it right?