@377...which Troy is asking? The one who exists or the one who doesn't?
Just because troy is asking a question doesn't mean he exists. As an entity.
By the way, to say one is not different from their impulses is the same thing as saying one doesn't exist: impulses are not an entity.
and btw.
I don't have drinking problems, I'm not drinking spirits or anything of the kind for several days now, and I will do without it for several months, and that's because I can.
One can do only what they're compelled to do. No control.
To say "one..." implies an entity.
I say it doesn't, except linguistically, which is why it's important to understand what words are trying to convey, and that sometimes they fall short of that goal.
Her, for instance, one means the body as a whole, acting this way or that way. One body as opposed to another, Tom as opposed to troy, etc.
If 'one' means the body as a whole, the whole is then 'one' entity. You lean towards nihilism although I think you try not to. There is little to be understood in your post as your first sentence is denied by your second sentence. The novice Zen Buddhist tries to use words to sound 'Zen', where in fact the words reveal the ruse. Or maybe I just don't understand what you are saying. Be glad that Troy is not Tom. They are different entites.
Guys, Tom's not here any more, so just relax and be yourselves.
Guys, Tom's not here any more, so just relax and be yourselves.
It works. I told tom to get a life, and he did!!
Not possible.
If 'one' means the body as a whole, the whole is then 'one' entity. You lean towards nihilism although I think you try not to. There is little to be understood in your post as your first sentence is denied by your second sentence. The novice Zen Buddhist tries to use words to sound 'Zen', where in fact the words reveal the ruse. Or maybe I just don't understand what you are saying. Be glad that Troy is not Tom. They are different entites.
That's the point you keep missing: there are no entities. An entity would imply a center, from which its activities are being coordinated. But such a center is fiction.
This has nothing to do with Zen, which is a practice to quiet one's mind, and, being a practice, it is a parody. Practice involves the existence of this very center, which, again, despite Zen practitioners not understanding what it's based on, is fictitious.
There is no practice to quiet one's mind. Or conversely, any such practice is based on creating the illusion of a center, illusion which denies silence from the start. And if one starts by creating noise, silence cannot be.
Wrong. Dead wrong. There is a center. It is everywhere. Ask a cosmologist. You exist but deny it. You think but deny you are thinking because you think you are not an entity. Whatever. Furthermore, Zen meditation may be a practice to quiet one's mind (note "one's" mind) but Zen itself is a way to insight and enlightenment. Contrarily, you are always pointing at nihilism. If you have ever practiced the mind-quieting techniques - any of them - you would know silence is possible. The aum is audible when the mind is quiet. But don't believe me! Find out for yourself. Practice something besides nihilism, just for a little while.
That is not silence. Give a toy, any toy, to a noisy child, and they will become quiet. But that is not silence.
In the exact same way, repeat a stupid word, any word, long enough and your mind will quiet down. That is not silence. The noise is still there, but the mind distracts itself with that toy: that toy is also part of the noise.
Silence, dear, is something quite pristine, quite pure. You cannot come to it by playing any silly games of distraction. Any pratitioner, Zen included, is clueless about how their mind works and is trying to manipulate their minds into silence. They fail to see that such manipulation tricks are part of the noise.
A silent mind is free from all tricks, all manipulative techniques, applied on itself as well as on others. The same mind which is trying to manipulate itself is also trying to manipulate others: it's called propaganda, to propagate something which is not understood.
As for the center, do, please, take a shot: what is the nature and the structure of such center?
Well, seems that you have admitted there is silence. Cannot get there through technique? How then? And if there is silence, where does it reside? In the center? In an entity? "Any practioner is clueless..." You're the best. Really great! If there is no center there is nothing but as you know, there is Troy.
There is no troy, either. You see, it is the very illusion of a center which prevents silence from happening: the center is a form of noise.
Troy, you make noise not sense. What you suggest is, as far as I can understand from you, the death state is the only real thing. And the only silence is zero Kelvin. So, since I said "Troy...you...your, I guess nobody got this post.
You keep not getting it: a person doesn't have to have a psychological center in order to exist physically..
But most of the planet seems to believe the contrary: they believe in the illusion of themselves, and consequently, they believe in a god invented by that illusion: it is the same illusion taking another shape.
The belief in oneself is the belief in God.
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By the way, to explain in the way Marc ( Fbs) has done it, the deleted comment was identical to the one follwing it, but since it happened to be the first one on the page( one never knows where it's gonna land within the page), it didn't contain the quote it referred to.
I could have pointed to the number of the post being addressed, but that would be asking the reader to go back and browse a bit, so I thought it was easier for them to see the post being responded to in the same picture they're reading the answer to it.