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Here is an atheist who worships his science!

He unscientifically makes sweeping slanderous charges against religion.

He understands nought about anything to do with religion.

He is completely deluded about the difference between science and religion!

Organized religion, when it is organized by fruitbaskets is not religion, it's a dogma. Organized science has brought the wonders of kettles, bicycles, aeroplanes, toasters, screwdrivers, electronics and nuclear bombs and the fictional stuff about big bangs and such. Science is basically human research and fiction. it's got good and bad. religion is not really understood in the main, because different people think of it in different ways, depending on their upbringing, while research into it by Joe Soap leads nowhere. As we don't live in an enlightened age, it may be best not to talk about it due to the misunderstandings prevalent in society.

Science has its dogmas too! And its fruitbaskets! different people think in different ways about science topics also!!! We must speak out against the ignorant rants against religion by so called scientifically thinking people

"Science is great. Scientism isn’t. Scientism is a philosophy (really a "faith") that says we should only believe what can be scientifically proven. Therefore, since you can’t easily put God under a microscope, well, He’s out." 

Religion teaches moral reasoning. Science teaches logical reasoning. Without a balance of both, we are either ignorant or inhumane.

17, you are seeming smarter by the post.

I can be philosophical when I want to.

First of all there is a difference between religions and being religious as opposed to spirtiual.

Now, here's the hypothesis: God does indeed exist.
We must rigorously test this hypothesis to either prove or disprove it.

And when you indeed do find god exists and is a personal being who wants to commune with each of us one-on-one, you will be one step ahead of Einstein, who realized that of course God exists {who else could have started the 1st Big Bang?} but thought god was too big and impersonal to even consider little ants like us.

So go out there and prove your points and don't accept mere dogma and supposition from organized religions who are after your money and your freedom.

And also don't accept mere conjecture from scientists regarding God's non-existence. They have to take that point of view or face ridicule and rejection from their scientist peers.

So if any of you are really independent thinkers who really want to prove this to themselves I will be truly amazed.

*cue Travel swooping in and calling that scientism*

Philosophy? Without philosophy no branch of science would exist, language wouldn't communicate, and we would just be a bunch of naked primates.

Hahaha, your argument is specious at best.

You cannot understand something far bigger than you so you attack those who do know what is real.

By the way, my understanding of Jahweh has nothing to do with religion.

It is time those of you too moronic to understand this subtle difference should excuse yourself and go back to your life existing only within 2 dimensions.

I'm going to start keeping a tally of intelligent comments made in this thread. Who wants to wager I get passed 0? :-)

Agreed. You won't get pass zero. So your comments are non-intelligent also!

I never said I would continue commenting. ;-)

God:        "Abraham, kill  your son."

Abraham: "OK."

Science:  "I'll do you one better. I'll make nuclear weapons and kill all of your sons."

Me:         "Ouch."

Sick burn.

Here we have atheist and theist fanaticism.Such fanaticism is why we had the Spanish Inquisition,the Thirty Years War,the Nazis,the Holocaust,neo-Nazis,terrorists,and terrorism.We would be having a much happier world if said fanaticism didn't exist.So stop arguing and be more tolerant with each other.

twighead wrote:

^ Word, our beliefs if we keep them to ourselves should effect no one else... unless your beliefs are to force everything you believe on everyone else... in which case... die! :D

I'm not that extreme.

Wishing death isn't being very tolerant...

Now now Alex, just because you are living in the delusional world where there is no God is no reason to denigrate others. Obviously you have been hurt very badly in your lifetime and lost loved ones whom you feel if God were real he would have intervened on their behalf.
That is usually the reason people take such an opposing view as yours.

It is a good place to live at your stage of developement. Don't feel bad; at the end of all time we will finally all equally know all there is to know and thus at least be equals on a mental level. Probably at the end of time we will all be equals to one another in all areas because we will have all melded back into the source.

Or do you prefer that when you die it is all over, just a black hole six feet deep or however you deal with that? Is that it? Nothing more? This was all just a waste of time?

Really? You can be so intelligent and yet come to such wrong conclusions.

But hey, who cares, right? If there is a God, that is not hiz name but merely her job title.

And I am not trying to get you to believe any of my beliefs. I am merely engaging in debate using pure logic and direct knowledge. And I may be wrong. This God dude may be far different than I depict him.

But at least read "Siddhartha" by Hesse.