The Science of Biological Evolution (no politics or religion)

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Is that the one from Camaroon?

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Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:

We are identical to Homo Sapians 200,000 years ago. They are us.

This is a blatant misrepresentation of the facts. Genome evidence clearly gives evidence of interbreeding with the Neanderthals and Denisovans.

For someone who is constantly shouting their so-called knowledge of evolution, their scientific background, you sure make alot of incorrect, false assumptions.

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They are us too. What does the genome from 200,000 years ago look like?

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- 500.000

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Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:

They are us too. What does the genome from 200,000 years ago look like?

What are you asking? Seems you're saying the Neanderthals were us too?

They were not Homo sapien. Go back and read again whatever that encyclopedia is you copy and paste from.

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The Great Leap Forward... conclusion.

This is where a different theoretical explanation is given. One that is given to serious research into the Great Leap Forward... that asks what makes us so smart, what can the dramatic and unexpected rapid developement of our intelligence be attributed too?

The hypothesis, this hybridization of interbreeding with the Neanderthals (and possibly as yet discovered a 3rd sub-species) produced a small tribe of individuals who were capable of greater intuitive leaps. Multiple statistical models support this theory. Knowledge is like a virus, cabal of growing exponentially under the right circumstances.

It would take the creativity and innovation of only a small population of enhanced individuals to alter the world, spreading new insights, share new tools, methods of art and ritual.

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yes, some of us are probably a terrible mistake of nature and we are forced to live with those fanatics for quite some time, don't we

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One accepted fact of Biology is a condition called hybrid vigor, where the mating of two different species results in an offspring of a stronger constitution than either parent.

Various theories have been proposed, but no true consensus has been reached. The most common thought is that the Great Leap Forward councided with early man's migration out of Africa, when we were exposed to foreign lands and unique challanges.

But what if it was something more? Something more powerful, something that changed our DNA?

Geneticists know that it is around this time that man first encountered Neanderthal tribes and began to interbreed.

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mdinnerspace wrote:

Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:

They are us too. What does the genome from 200,000 years ago look like?

What are you asking? Seems you're saying the Neanderthals were us too?

They were not Homo sapien. Go back and read again whatever that encyclopedia is you copy and paste from.

Yep there's splitters and lumpers.Human beings are the bipedal apes that walked out of Africa,and just as we currently have minor variations over our range,we have also had minor variations over time,and what we call civilization is a recent fad,like "Pet Rocks".

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All Us.

 

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mdinnerspace wrote:

Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:

They are us too. What does the genome from 200,000 years ago look like?

What are you asking? Seems you're saying the Neanderthals were us too?

They were not Homo sapien. Go back and read again whatever that encyclopedia is you copy and paste from.

Neanderthals are now considered a subspecies. Moreover, it is extremely likely that they contributed about 1-4% of the DNA of Europeans (WIkipedia says "non-Africans", but the evidence is that Asians got some of their DNA from different subspecies, the Denisovans).

So Neanderthals are in the very recent ancestors (evolutionarily speaking) of many or most people here. That may include you (I don't know your ancestry).

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True,primates can interbreed as long as we share a common ancestor in the last 2million years. Like I said,minor variations over time. 

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Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:

All Us.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjAZGUcjrP8

homo inutilis

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Haha!

'homo inutilis' has been looked up once, is no one's favorite word yet, is on no lists yet, has no comments yet, and is not a valid Scrabble word.

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Elroch hat geschrieben:

Neanderthals are now considered a subspecies. Moreover, it is extremely likely that they contributed about 1-4% of the DNA of Europeans (WIkipedia says "non-Africans", but the evidence is that Asians got some of their DNA from different subspecies, the Denisovans).

So Neanderthals are in the very recent ancestors (evolutionarily speaking) of many or most people here. That may include you (I don't know your ancestry).

Which by the way makes white supremacists even more of a laughing stock: The fact that it's Africans who are purely homo sapiens, while us whites carry a significant amount of Neanderthal DNA!

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All the hominids were interbreeding. Africanus had some Bosia,or Sedensis.,Habilis had some Ergaster,etc...

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Modern humans began a mere 15,000 years ago. How much they were a product of the varies species and their interbreeding will take many mores years of research.

It is a gross over-statement that (as many propose), we posses 90 per cent of the knowledge regarding evolution; specifically natural selection. In truth we posses at best 10 per cent, with 90 per cent remaining to be discovered.

A claim exists that the orginal bones (Adam and Eve) were discovered, the for bearers of modern man, dating back 15,000 years which coincides with many historical events. That's another story, another theory but is backed by scientific evidence.

(Adam and Eve) is used simply as a generic reference to the 1st of modern humans. Not in any "religeous" sense. Modern lineage, genetic tracing goes back to this time as the start of modern man.

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Modern Humans began 2 million years ago. Homo Erectus was just as smart as you or me,maybe smarter.