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Chairman-Miaow wrote:

this forum is for people who don’t believe in evolution.

No,its for ever body with any view poins. Creationist are not welcome no enrochs forum so I made this one where every body can talk no matter where they stand on evolution. Evolutionists are welcome.

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varelse1 wrote:
Geodexic wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:

Also I just learned that Darwin married his cousin 

Well, didn't Abraham marry his niece? Sarah?

And then there's Noah's whole family. Who were they spozed to marry, but each other? Everybody else was dead!

Guess we cant fault Darwin, for that.

Together with Noah in the ark were his followers. His kids married with them.

As long as it is not incest it is allowed.

Actually -- and I may be wrong, as it been a long time since I been to Sunday School -- but I believe those "followers" were all his family.

Which many were married already before work on the Ark began. So they not incest.

But then comes the next generation. Which is by definition all family. So who did they marry?

Well, i have no detail about his followers.

Marrying nephew is not allowed. Marrying cousin is allowed.  

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It was made by an higher power. 

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trump2020maga1 wrote:
llamonade wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:
llamonade wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:

How did the reproduction organs evolve? With out them you can't make the generation it would take to evolve them

Incorrect.

How so?

It's called asexual reproduction, a term you would have heard if you hadn't been educated by mouth breathing hillbillies in a West Virginian barn.

How did they evolve the ability to do asexual reproduction?

The same way anything else does, but I guess you mean to ask this a few times until we get to the origin, in which case my answer is that life is simply self replicating non-living molecules.

If you thought it was something more, something ethereal, that's very romantic, but notice that medicine (which is based on those molecules) cures people while prays do not.

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Geodexic wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
Geodexic wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:

Also I just learned that Darwin married his cousin 

Well, didn't Abraham marry his niece? Sarah?

And then there's Noah's whole family. Who were they spozed to marry, but each other? Everybody else was dead!

Guess we cant fault Darwin, for that.

Together with Noah in the ark were his followers. His kids married with them.

As long as it is not incest it is allowed.

Actually -- and I may be wrong, as it been a long time since I been to Sunday School -- but I believe those "followers" were all his family.

Which many were married already before work on the Ark began. So they not incest.

But then comes the next generation. Which is by definition all family. So who did they marry?

Well, i have no detail about his followers.

Marrying nephew is not allowed. Marrying cousin is allowed.  

It was just trivia fact that most people do not know. Not really criticism.

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#504 How is there more evidence that humans were created by a higher power?
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Because nothing can create it self

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It's Impossible

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trump2020maga1 wrote:

Because nothing can create it self

Then what created God?

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And the Bible told me so and that's good enough for me. That me tho and you might need something more but I don't 

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See, you always run into a problem of infinite regression, so it's better to let Occam's razor shave off the superfluous anthropomorphic sky-daddy and just call the universe itself supernatural.

In any case, a tree grows from a seed. The man who hasn't found out about seeds shouts "it's impossible" but he's just a fool. Every process that exists that we know about has a logical and natural explanation. Every process that exists that we can't explain yet is assumed to have a natural explanation... this assumption is what lead to all our knowledge, and lets compare... thousands of years of superstition got humanity where? Ignorant dirt farmers. A human population under 1 billion because 50% of people died before their 5th birthday. Then came real knowledge, the enlightenment, and boom, a relatively short time later we're flying rockets to the moon and the population skyrockets.

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I believe that a higher power created the universe and everything was created in the higher power’s image, but I don’t think that the world was created in seven days. I haven’t seen any evidence that everything on earth just suddenly appeared several thousand years ago. Have you seen any evidence that that was the case?
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trump2020maga1 wrote:

And the Bible told me so and that's good enough for me. That me tho and you might need something more but I don't 

Your topic's title isn't "the Bible told me so, and that's good enough for me"

Your topic's title mentions evidence. Faith isn't evidence.

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llamonade wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:

Because nothing can create it self

Then what created God?

Nothing can exist forever without a beginning and nothing can make itself. It cant be a endless chane of creators  either. You need a higher power that can break one of these rules.

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llamonade wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:

And the Bible told me so and that's good enough for me. That me tho and you might need something more but I don't 

Your topic's title isn't "the Bible told me so, and that's good enough for me"

Your topic's title mentions evidence. Faith isn't evidence.

No,it is looking for proof against evaluation. There is a ton of that

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#511 “The Bible told me so” is not evidence. It’s taking someone’s word for something.
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Yes,your right

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There is no proof for creation. But there is no proof for evolution eather. 

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trump2020maga1 wrote:
llamonade wrote:
trump2020maga1 wrote:

Because nothing can create it self

Then what created God?

Nothing can exist forever without a beginning and nothing can make itself. It cant be a endless chane of creators  either. You need a higher power that can break one of these rules.

It's more accurate to say that nothing in our everyday experience suggests objects can appear randomly.

But since our brains evolved to help us survive e.g. in the plains of Africa, our intuition isn't worth much... in fact that's the entire premise of science i.e. to take humans out of the equation as much as possible when searching for knowledge. When trying to learn, we instead ignore our flawed senses and intuition and go with facts and logic.

The physics that governs the world (and the universe) is very unintuitive. You have things like virtual particles that can pop into existence from nothing, and at the very small scale, randomness rules. If all the matter and energy in the universe sums to zero, you don't need a creator God, at least not in the classical sense. We might still be left without an explanation for why laws of physics exist at all, but again, just look at how reliable our intuition has been. Look at the track record. Humans are extremely bad at generating real knowledge from their intuition. At the end of the day assuming the God of the entire universe looks just like you is more than a little laughable... but when you understand that all cultures through all of human history make up religions, (and we continue to do this even today, Mormons, Scientology, etc) it all makes sense.

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llamonade wrote:

See, you always run into a problem of infinite regression, so it's better to let Occam's razor shave off the superfluous anthropomorphic sky-daddy and just call the universe itself supernatural.

In any case, a tree grows from a seed. The man who hasn't found out about seeds shouts "it's impossible" but he's just a fool. Every process that exists that we know about has a logical and natural explanation. Every process that exists that we can't explain yet is assumed to have a natural explanation... this assumption is what lead to all our knowledge, and lets compare... thousands of years of superstition got humanity where? Ignorant dirt farmers. A human population under 1 billion because 50% of people died before their 5th birthday. Then came real knowledge, the enlightenment, and boom, a relatively short time later we're flying rockets to the moon and the population skyrockets.

I am not sure human could live in sustainable earth.

Perhaps the heaven is not permitting other planets colonization.

Moreover, we believe in the dooms day. 

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