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Firstplay

I don't understand either of em to be honest.  This thread has been entertaining and informative and has helped expose the biased nature of the site and admin, but these two muppets have nothing to add it seems.  It seems my very presence annoys them, which isn't a bad reason to stay on the forums :-)  If Caddy n Prep aren't even going to attempt any reasonable dialogue I'll bomb em off.  Your choice chaps; remember what the OP is about though.

Toire

 "Reasonable dialogue",  hahaha...with you that means continually insulting and berating the owner, staff and mods on this site; calling them racists, xenophobes, etc.

And all this with a free account and constantly pushing your leftist agenda on a USA CHESS site!

No thank you, I want no  "dialogue"  with your sort.

AlCzervik
Preparedness wrote:

I don't have an agenda, apart from playing chess.

But I object to the constant criticism of the staff/mods where it is unjustified.

what you consider unjustified is your opinion, and, this is kinda what this thread is about. on page 13 it's evident staff members have different views of what may have happened. 

the op is making the point about how interpretation of the rules might be based on an individual's philosophy, frame of reference, etc. 

in your last post you dismiss the op stating he should not have an opinion as a freeloader. do you see how stupid that argument is? and, in posts 336 and 344 you agreed with the op.

if you would like no further dialogue, it's easy. 

RonaldJosephCote

              I just think Chess.com is becoming more and more like FARGO everydayhappy.png                            

                                                                        

Ghostliner
Preparedness wrote:

 "Reasonable dialogue",  hahaha...with you that means continually insulting and berating the owner, staff and mods on this site; calling them racists, xenophobes, etc.

And all this with a free account and constantly pushing your leftist agenda on a USA CHESS site!

No thank you, I want no  "dialogue"  with your sort.

Hear that First? As if it weren't bad enough that you're a freeloading, pinko-communist agitator you're a bloody foreigner to boot!

No wonder he doesn't wanna parley - it stands to reason mate, "your sort" shouldn't be allowed to mix with decent, respectable folk like Preppy, he's paid an entrance fee don't you know?

Ghostliner
AlCzervik wrote:
Preparedness wrote:

I don't have an agenda, apart from playing chess.

But I object to the constant criticism of the staff/mods where it is unjustified.

what you consider unjustified is your opinion, and, this is kinda what this thread is about. on page 13 it's evident staff members have different views of what may have happened. 

the op is making the point about how interpretation of the rules might be based on an individual's philosophy, frame of reference, etc. 

in your last post you dismiss the op stating he should not have an opinion as a freeloader. do you see how stupid that argument is? and, in posts 336 and 344 you agreed with the op.

if you would like no further dialogue, it's easy. 

Good steer mate,

Firstplay

I know Ghosty, he's funny.  Not too smart either it seems as Al has pointed out.  Still, I'll allow him to continue posting, demonstrating his shortcomings for all to see Smile

ANOK1

leftist agenda on a USA CHESS site!

hi Preparedness , the USA has a long history of socialism , longer than its suppression under Mc Carthyism ,

http://www.iww.org/

is worth a look , of course you might not want to look , thats entirely your choice , but i think you will agree that throughout its history when youu research it the USA has always had those who follow the "leftist agenda"

IWW Founded 1905 , bet theres groups before too , gonna look

https://iww.org/history/chronology

Babytigrrr

Ok... moving away from politics.

'This site' forum on this site is allowed because it remains on topic.  There are rules in life, most are because it supports the majority.  Minorities (in this case, those who want to talk about politics) have to put up or shut up... why?  Because they're the rules.

If, however, there are times when those rules seem to bend... for others but never for you (this is the 'royal you').  Maybe we just have to accept that because... hey, this site is also run by humans.  Humans bend. 

Firstplay

Yes Bt, Waldorf and Statler seem to want to talk politics when they know that it's not allowed; naughty muppets!!  Funny too I thought that they say they don't want dialogue but shout from behind their keyboards! :-)

This thread is discussing attitudes; why rt-wing politics are allowed but when responses, disagreeing, are given then they're considered against the rules.  The recent statements by Kommander Riker proves this, plus of course his allowance of a racist rant by one of his buddies.  Absolutely indefensible, and there for all to see.   'Cept they removed the racist rants after complaints, but zilch from the Kommander.

  You'd think such a prominent Staff member would be aware of the rules, or possibly he thinks that he's only there to censure other people, that he's above the rules.  Well, he is a self confessed Trump campaigner so what can we expect?  Anything to add in your defence Kommander?

YorikOGwaun

the site is only as good as its moderation, but the moderation is very teenagery, pro-trolling.

the forums and the chess interface should be the sites advantage over other sites, but both are now unprofessional.

Firstplay

It was the high profile fascists that bothered me Kay, and never a word from Staff except to close down anyone criticising the fascists.  We have prominent Staff members closing down some threads for alleged breaches of rules but break the rules themselves. 

They're apparently not even aware it seems of what racism is.  I'd say that Staff need some training, not just in the rules of the site but about humanity.  It's an international chess site, not some back-woods redneck drinking party, or at least it's supposed to be,

ANOK1

i feel an uncrotollable urge to post forums on designing cat a pults , just to fullfill my online fantasy of hurling cats at hadrians wall , this of course is extremely prejudicial to cats and perpetuates the myth war between dogs and cats is inevitable as rain in england

i am allowed to inflict this rank speciesm and hatred with absolutely no moderation

 

ANOK1

i hope the great minds at chess.com help in the design i  am  too busy working on personnal protective gear

AlCzervik
jeanmichel-jamjarre wrote:

the site is only as good as its moderation, but the moderation is very teenagery, pro-trolling.

the forums and the chess interface should be the sites advantage over other sites, but both are now unprofessional.

nailed it.

AlCzervik
Babytigrrr wrote:

Ok... moving away from politics.

'This site' forum on this site is allowed because it remains on topic.  There are rules in life, most are because it supports the majority.  Minorities (in this case, those who want to talk about politics) have to put up or shut up... why?  Because they're the rules.

If, however, there are times when those rules seem to bend... for others but never for you (this is the 'royal you').  Maybe we just have to accept that because... hey, this site is also run by humans.  Humans bend. 

fair points, tiger. but, the bend, as you wrote, is why this topic is where it is. i responded to another a page before questioning him/her, and it is about perception. both of the rules as stated and those as seen by members.

i would agree that it is difficult to make snap decisions (based on one's views) or try to toe the company line while being professional. 

i may have written this earlier. forgive me if i have and it is redundant. in my opinion, allowing political talk here would be good for the site. create a political discussion forum. yes, there will be disagreements, and, some will be muted. they'll learn or leave. 

of course, a political forum would require additional moderation, and, as you mention about us all being human, it would certainly open a can of worms that erik is not equipped to handle. 

AlCzervik
aerodarts wrote:
Babytigrrr wrote:

Ok... moving away from politics.

'This site' forum on this site is allowed because it remains on topic.  There are rules in life, most are because it supports the majority.  Minorities (in this case, those who want to talk about politics) have to put up or shut up... why?  Because they're the rules.

If, however, there are times when those rules seem to bend... for others but never for you (this is the 'royal you').  Maybe we just have to accept that because... hey, this site is also run by humans.  Humans bend. 

there should be rules that prevent foolish points of views about those pointing out rules.

define foolish vs. what cc does.

then, go back in your cave.

Ghostliner
aerodarts wrote:

This site is nothing but little punks there love using their chess programs to to mess around with other players. They get a kick out of getting points the easy way. Points to them mean something and that is what counts. Does not matter how they get points. This makes them winners. Sorry state of affairs.

I can't agree with this.

Maybe your experience hasn't been so great, I'm sure there are *some* members who tick all those boxes but to say that's all there is to it is absolutely ridiculous. I've been playing in the Asian and World leagues for over a year now, nearly all of the opponents I've faced have been serious, honest and unfailingly courteous and polite.

Ghostliner

Mind you, most of them have been rated 2000+, maybe that has summat to do with it? Believe it or not, most people come to chess.com to play chess (cue gasps of amazement) wink.png

Firstplay

...or some, like myself, enjoy the debate and banter as much as the chess Ghosty. I don't think being a good chess player automatically means that a person has a high IQ, or has higher moral values than others. 

It's quite easy to see those that fail on moral values as they rarely back up their accusations and claims, and usually very quickly resort to childish insults.  This is because they know that they can't compete with the logical discussion; their opinions based more on prejudice and hatred than evidence.  And of course they hope that others will be drawn away from the OP with stupid name calling, 'red herrings', 'straw men'.

I'm sure that I'm not the only person to have noticed the lack of response from Staff regarding the content of this thread, and especially on the inflammatory remarks from one of their felow Staff members. The Kommander's glaring bias in attempting to stifle a response to his own remarks, and allowing the racist rant from his 'good ol boy' buddy have exposed how the forums are moderated.  I thought jdcannon (Staff) may have offered an opinion on this. 

The complaints that many of have made and the reason the thread was started are now here for all to see.  I thought Staff and mods would have entered into some discussion on what is now obvious to just about everyone who reads the forums.  The silence of the Staff is deafening.  That's 'Staff' Kay, not 'the lambs' Wink

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