What is your Myers-Briggs personality type?

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Elubas wrote:

Ok... so basically, if you have a personality type, (which everyone does), you are a great person, according to the descriptions. By deduction, we now know that everyone is great! All the bad in the world must just be my imagination ;)

Don't forget someones meat is someone elses posion.

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Elubas wrote:

Ok... so basically, if you have a personality type, (which everyone does), you are a great person, according to the descriptions. By deduction, we now know that everyone is great! All the bad in the world must just be my imagination ;)

I don't think there are many bad guys in the world. I mean, have you ever met a Hollywood-like villain, who would burn a billion lolcats with an evil laugh in exchange for one more year of life expectancy for him? I never did.

What I have met regularly are people who genuinely try to do good, and ens up creating disasters because they try a bad method too hard. They compensate their relative clumsiness (compared to the Hollywood villain) by their sheer numbers.

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define bad-
Do bad guys irl think they are bad?
what makes a 'good' person anyways?

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Irontiger wrote:
Elubas wrote:

Ok... so basically, if you have a personality type, (which everyone does), you are a great person, according to the descriptions. By deduction, we now know that everyone is great! All the bad in the world must just be my imagination ;)

I don't think there are many bad guys in the world. I mean, have you ever met a Hollywood-like villain, who would burn a billion lolcats with an evil laugh in exchange for one more year of life expectancy for him? I never did.

What I have met regularly are people who genuinely try to do good, and ens up creating disasters because they try a bad method too hard. They compensate their relative clumsiness (compared to the Hollywood villain) by their sheer numbers.

Basically, this falls under Hanlon's Razor ;)...

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lol

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Turns out I'm a Castor and Pollux.  Which is weird, as it's also cockney rhyming slang for these kind of tests.

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formyoffdays wrote:

Turns out I'm a Castor and Pollux.  Which is weird, as it's also cockney rhyming slang for these kind of tests.

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LudRa95 wrote:
formyoffdays wrote:

Turns out I'm a Castor and Pollux.  Which is weird, as it's also cockney rhyming slang for these kind of tests.

 

 

:-)

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Irontiger wrote:
Elubas wrote:

Ok... so basically, if you have a personality type, (which everyone does), you are a great person, according to the descriptions. By deduction, we now know that everyone is great! All the bad in the world must just be my imagination ;)

I don't think there are many bad guys in the world. I mean, have you ever met a Hollywood-like villain, who would burn a billion lolcats with an evil laugh in exchange for one more year of life expectancy for him? I never did.

 

Not met any in person, no. But I have seen probably too many murder mysteries on TV, lol. And yes, real ones, not CSI or something.

I agree that only an incredibly tiny amount of people are truly "evil." But they do exist. There was once a real case where a person was killed and her body parts were contained in separate bags, all thrown into the water but eventually retrieved. And a lot of times the only motive is insurance money. I don't know, maybe it's just an American thing :p

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18270 wrote:

define bad-
Do bad guys irl think they are bad?
what makes a 'good' person anyways?

Yeah, yeah, moral relativism. It's probably too much of a tangent to go into this, but I always thought there was a certain logic to morality. If you know pain is bad from your experience, and you know that other people experience pain, you are committed to say that this is also bad. To not say so is to not fully understand pain, that it can affect people whether you personally feel it or not.

Well... let's just say I don't want to be around people who don't fully understand pain (which is a big part of humanity). And no one should.

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Elubas wrote:
18270 wrote:

define bad-
Do bad guys irl think they are bad?
what makes a 'good' person anyways?

Yeah, yeah, moral relativism. It's probably too much of a tangent to go into this, but I always thought there was a certain logic to morality. If you know pain is bad from your experience, and you know that other people experience pain, you are committed to say that this is also bad. To not say so is to not fully understand pain, that it can affect people whether you personally feel it or not.

Well... let's just say I don't want to be around people who don't fully understand pain (which is a big part of humanity). And no one should.

But pain is good.

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Things of course get more complicated because pain itself can be relative. So to be moral to one person may require something different than for another person depending on what makes them feel pain.

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So you are going to ground your morality in the concept of pain ??

Can't wait to read your treatise on same.

If morality were deducible don't you think Whitehead and company would have already solved those problems a hundred years ago?

Whoops, both WW1 and Russell's preference for blondes intervened, reflecting rather badly on their program.

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Haha, simply talking about philosophy brings in zborg to insult. Lol ok zborg if that's what it takes to make your day...

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btickler wrote:
Irontiger wrote:
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Basically, this falls under Hanlon's Razor ;)...

Good one, did not know the name. Cheers!

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Elubas wrote:

Haha, simply talking about philosophy brings in zborg to insult. Lol ok zborg if that's what it takes to make your day...

You habitually run on, and believe what you spout is always serious thinking.  But you're uniformed beyond your freshman logic course.

"Things of course, get more complicated because pain itself is relative..." (direct quote).

And the moral universe gets condensed into a mindless IF / THEN statement ??

It's painful you're such a windbag, despite being a good chess player.

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No, I could be wrong. Very wrong even. I just think out loud -- whatever's going on in your head is what turns my words into "the belief that I have 'serious thinking.' " I think it's your own ego that gets in the way of it. If you think someone posts something and they're wrong you insist that they be corrected, so that they know "just how stupid they are" -- talk about self-serving. A person who merely is interested in the topic will simply make a plain contribution, that may or may not be in agreement. And you haven't fit such a description.

As for being a windbag -- whatever; at least I'm not going to insist that I tell a person that they are stupid. I post ideas, and I don't resent people regardless of their view. In other words I consider myself quite civil, and I think that's more important than being right.

You on the other hand probably think being right is more important than being civil :)

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I made my contributions to MBTI, while you decided to wax philosophical on pain, reason, and moral relativism.  So I called you on it.  End of story.

My prose were civil, your prose were not.  Let the readers decided for themselves.  How could it be otherwise on the anonymous internet?

If you want more civility from me in the future, point taken.  Thank you.

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zborg wrote:

My prose were civil, your prose were not.  Let the readers decided for themselves.

zborg wrote:

You habitually run on, and believe what you spout is always serious thinking.  But you're uniformed beyond your freshman logic course.

(...)

It's painful you're such a windbag, despite being a good chess player.

 

I decided. But hey, that's my opinion.

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Ok so you called me out on contributing ideas? I'm not so sure you really like discussion then! If my idea was incorrect, then everyone would benefit from both seeing my arguments and a response to them. Anyway, I still propose that you are the one who turns my plain ideas into arrogance, who would actually prefer fewer ideas being spread out just because... well actually, I'm not really sure why -- because that would somehow increase, not decrease, the chance of learning something? :)