Whiskys, whiskeys and bourbons

Ever had a Long Island Iced Tea?

here's the recipe for it:

Now is there any drinks that taste horrible and best to avoid it ?!

MD 20/20 is at the bottom of my list

absinthe

Just read a review on Oban's *Distillers edition, Montilla* and gotta think a dram would complement a return from a walk in the park on a cold Autumn day.. Um,um...

Well,,,,, the weather and this post went and got me all excited about Scotch so I broke down and got me a bottle of Balvenie,The 12 yr DoubleWood.. Very nice!! Decided to go with a Speyside this time around and feel it was a very good choice! Um,ummmmmm,um...

My favorite whiskey is Basil Hayden Kentucky but at half the price I am happy to with John Power's Irish Whiskey, neither are harsh. Bourbon in a bar? I'll usually order an old fashion and tell them it's too weak and you can't taste the bourbon, always good for a free shot and greatly improves the drink!

Boilermakers and other whiskey to beer combinations are more about getting drunk in my opinion. I remember a joke in New Yorker mag, two drunks are in a bar and one advises the other, you should concentrate more on being drunk and less on getting drunk. Now there's something to consider, unless you enjoy hangovers.

I have question to all whiskey and bourbon drinkers. What is the different between them, are they made it differently or what ?

Short answer to what the difference is - the grains used to make it.

the long answer consists of the following.

Bourbon generally consists of three grains 51% of it needs to be made from corn, this is mixed with either rye or wheat and malted barley.  Combine this with some demineralized water (the water in kentucky is great for this because of natural limestone filtering) and some yeast and you've got yourself the ingredients to make yourself some bourbon. Mash up your grains, and put it through the rigors of fermentation then distill the resulting beer and age it in NEW oak barrels that have been charred on the inside for atleast 2 years and you've just made a straight bourbon (legally different than a plain bourbon). 

Change the %s around to being 51% rye instead of corn and you've got yourself a "straight rye whiskey" the restriction on barrels only being used once is not there

Make a bourbon but charcoal filter it at the end (mellows it out) and you've got yourself a tennesse whiskey.

The stills for whisky are generally different than those used for bourbons.  Scots use nice copper pot bellied stills.  While most american bourbons use column stills (woodford reserve is the exception) I'm still learning about the differences this makes. So not sure if these makes any difference.

Malt Whisky is made with a selection of malts (I think traditonally this is barley) but am not too sure about this one.

I only really know the basics but am looking to get a deeper knowledge than this.

I like Canadian Club Whiskey when at home with water.

Ditto Jim Beam and water

Tend to drink JB and diet cola when out.

Hell i'll drink almost any type of Whiskey!

Stay away from "Kentucky Gold" Bourbon unless you are a really really cheap drunk. Its putrid even with cola. 

I like Yaeger Bombs!

I also like Bloody Mary's with lots and lots of Tobasco!  I make my own at home as well! lol

Its Jager (As in Jagermeister)  Unless you austalians spell it differently.

And at risk of starting a flame war.  Jager Bombs are one of the stupidest marketing gimics to hit bars since... I don't know 80s shots.  Seriously the whole dropping shit into a glass full of another liquid is silly.  It chips glasses, teeth, makes a mess of the bar, makes a mess of you, risks shot glasses being thrown all over the place when someone is cleaning up the bar, risks glasses breaking in trays, and is just generally a stupid drink.

Really it should be called the Mary Poppins - its a can full of sugar to help the cough syrup go down.

Of course who am I to argue with the uneducated masses.

exiledcanuck wrote:

Its Jager (As in Jagermeister)  Unless you austalians spell it differently.

And at risk of starting a flame war.  Jager Bombs are one of the stupidest marketing gimics to hit bars since... I don't know 80s shots.  Seriously the whole dropping shit into a glass full of another liquid is silly.  It chips glasses, teeth, makes a mess of the bar, makes a mess of you, risks shot glasses being thrown all over the place when someone is cleaning up the bar, risks glasses breaking in trays, and is just generally a stupid drink.

Really it should be called the Mary Poppins - its a can full of sugar to help the cough syrup go down.

Of course who am I to argue with the uneducated masses.

 Yeah, yeah, get off the fence and say what you mean, why don't you?

I like them occassionally, they are a bit of fun, nothing else

exiledcanuck wrote:

Its Jager (As in Jagermeister)  Unless you austalians spell it differently.

 Ok I didnt really know how it was spelt.

"And at risk of starting a flame war.  Jager Bombs are one of the stupidest marketing gimics to hit bars since... I don't know 80s shots."

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion

"Seriously the whole dropping shit into a glass full of another liquid is silly."

So you dont drink spirits with cola? 

"It chips glasses, "

No more chance than a barmaid carrying several glasses at at time in my opinion

"teeth"

No more than a beer glass IMHO

"makes a mess of the bar"

Only If you are a messy person.

"makes a mess of you"

Isn't that what drinking alcohol is all about?

"risks shot glasses being thrown all over the place when someone is cleaning up the bar, risks glasses breaking in trays, and is just generally a stupid drink"

Meh. i think this is a stupid comment.  Just my opinion.  you can have yours.

Maybe you need different staff at your bar?

KCO are all people in NZ messy / Careless or only a few?

"Really it should be called the Mary Poppins - its a can full of sugar to help the cough syrup go down."

Nah dont need sugar! sugarfree red bull works fine as well! You can apply that comment to Smirnoff, Cruisers, other flavored drinks as well!

"Of course who am I to argue with the uneducated masses."

Once again your opinion not mine. I am educated, dont know about every one else who drinks.... :)

We are not starting a flame war here mates, a very small minority make amess of themselves. Exilecanuck knows because he been there as well he work asa bar manager, so he see it all. I did some silly things when I was young too so pretty stupid  though.

yeah I dont (normally) make a mess of myself :D

so he has to clean up the messes...that's why he doesn't like the bombs

He's prejudiced against them

understandable...if I had to clean up the mess I wouldn't like them either

and for the record....once drunk enough...everyone is a mess

even the educated minority!! a.k.a bar managers

Yeah I have try the Long Island Iced Tea, very nice, two is enough for me wow !

alcohol and chess don't mix! when will you guys learn? KCO: you could start a brawl in a convent! couldn't you for once pick a non-contentious topic like ... chatting, resigning, sportsmanship, ...

nah that even more stupid ,they are even fighting in there ! p.s. I drink in a moderation.

vodka...that my favourite spirit.  nz beer, lion brown.  aussie beer, i like victorian bitter.