CHESS ETIQUETTE: Playing On In Ridiculous Positions, etc,

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UnknwnDarkDragon
zenwabi wrote:

Hey, ghost of bushwood, ain't nothing funny about respiratory infections, pal. May the next coughing kid be sitting across from you, pal. 

lol!!!!! funniest insult on here yet. 

Sred
Saggy752 wrote:
Sred wrote:
Saggy752 wrote:

I never resign any of my games, because I want to learn from all positions(even lost ones) and I think that playing long games is just part of being a chess player. I understand that it might be annoying to the opponent but even if I am playing a 2200, with a queen, I would rather take my chances than lose. A 1600 played too fast, and drew against me. Up a bishop, and a queen! 

There is not much to learn from playing something like K vs KR. You also don't learn to play long games, because you don't need to keep focused. Surely you are moving pieces, but you don't really play chess. Neither does your opponent. You may of course continue playing, but I don't think it will improve any of your skills.

This is very true and I agree that I may not be learning anything, but I think that even if I continue playing the game, that my opponent should not become annoyed. I understand that you want to go home but I like to play my games out. I completely understand your opinion and realize that opponents may want to finish the game, but it's my choice that I want to continue playing the game and my opinion should not be disrespected. 

Oh, I completely agree that it's fine for you to play on. Just saying that you'll probably not gain much.

UnknwnDarkDragon

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zenwabi

Who knew that my 2/12/2020 post would become a death threat due to the coronavirus pandemic? Geez. It's a changed world.

bluetimewarp

I'm a beginner, and I've only played against Stockfish online. I tend to resign if my position looks hopeless. But, Stockfish does not resign, and rightly so. I have been taught beaucoup lessons about humility and paying strict attention to the board when I'm in a totally winning position. Usually, Stockfish gets a draw by stalemate if I'm sloppy, or if I'm doing some nasty trolling like promoting five pawns to queens (mainly because the computer ticks me off by beating me so much). But a few times, I was playing very legit with superior material, and I got a surprise checkmate clobber like a lightning bolt out of the blue. So, my point is this. Every player must learn to play to the very end regardless of advantage. That pathetic, weak player who refuses to follow proper chess etiquette and resign when you think he should resign, well part of being good at chess is showing you have the skill to avoid a stalemate in a winning position, or worse, a blunder that loses the game.

zenwabi

Well, we may never get back to OTB play, and that's what this thread is mainly about. At an OTB tourney, your opponent has given up vacation time or a weekend to come compete with you, incurred travel expenses, and faces a playing schedule that often does not give much of a break between rounds. My position is that you owe your opponent some respect --- after all, without him/her you have no chess game --- so playing on in a ridiculous position is rude and a waste of time. Recently, a kid did this to me at a major Las Vegas tourney. We were almost the only board left playing in the huge hall, and still he kept refusing my draw offers. Finally, the 50-move rule gave us a draw. I asked him why he kept refusing a draw in an obviously drawn position. HIS RIDICULOUS REPLY: "I was trying to flag you." His reply was nonsensical because I had adequate time left, and it was an increment time control, so every time we moved we got more time.

sndeww

I have to agree with zen, even in the first one. I can understand playing on OTB a piece or exchange down, but when you're two pieces up or up a queen, I'd feel kinda insulted if I was playing someone around my level. 

sndeww
zenwabi wrote:

Well, we may never get back to OTB play, and that's what this thread is mainly about. At an OTB tourney, your opponent has given up vacation time or a weekend to come compete with you, incurred travel expenses, and faces a playing schedule that often does not give much of a break between rounds. My position is that you owe your opponent some respect --- after all, without him/her you have no chess game --- so playing on in a ridiculous position is rude and a waste of time. Recently, a kid did this to me at a major Las Vegas tourney. We were almost the only board left playing in the huge hall, and still he kept refusing my draw offers. Finally, the 50-move rule gave us a draw. I asked him why he kept refusing a draw in an obviously drawn position. HIS RIDICULOUS REPLY: "I was trying to flag you." His reply was nonsensical because I had adequate time left, and it was an increment time control, so every time we moved we got more time.

Actually played against someone online in increment time control who simply didn't want to draw in a drawn position. Obviously he tried to flag me but for some reason I flagged him. tongue.png

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exceptionalfork
melvinbluestone wrote:

  This what I really call playing in a ridiculous position......

 

Lol

SquareDealer

If it's within the rules and I want to do it, I do it. What you do is on you. And no, I don't necessarily want to touch your potentially nasty little digits after the game. happy.png

zenwabi

SD, may the bad karma associated with selfishness find you! And handshakes are not the principle subject of this thread. 

PerpetuallyPinned

Black to move

What do you do and why?

If you're White and Black plays on, are they "rude" and have no "chess etiquette"?

ChessieSystem101
briheller wrote:

My philosophy is that it is perfectly fine to play on in hope of a result, but it is annoying to play on just to prolong defeat. If you think you can get a stalemate, no matter how low the chances, then play on. If you just want to annoy your opponent by stalling, then you should resign.

Why? Maybe reinforcements will come.wink.png

SquareDealer

Whenever you try to condition another's legitimate rights so that he conforms to your opinion, it is you who are being selfish.

 

zenwabi

SD, that's a pat observation that has no useful content. We are talking about more than "legitimate rights", we are talking about the duty of a sportsman to show respect for his opponent, because, without an opponent, there is no game. 

SquareDealer

Apparently, zen, to you, that respect only goes one way. We come together to play, we establish the rules. Now here comes somebody that wants to establish and enforce his own rules. Not having it. A sportsman plays by the rules and no complaints.

sndeww

Square Dealer what do you think about stalling on time so your opponent might get bored and disconnect?

zenwabi

Obviously, SquareD, behaving like a sportsman is not a rule, unless the anti-ANNOYING BEHAVIOR rule is triggered (USCF has such a rule), but here we are discussing the ethos of chess sportsmanship, which includes respect for your opponent. Wasting your opponent's time by playing on in a totally busted or drawn position --- assuming no chance to win on time --- is just a gratuitous & childish insult to your opponent. 

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