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Barney-Boondoggle
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:

We have a RIGHT to see what so-called "rules" the Mods are supposedly going by as they lord it over us!

THE SECRETS OF THE HANDBOOK MUST BE REVEALED!!!

 

 

Those are the rules. The handbook basically lays out some guidance on how to apply the act of moderating to those rules. There's also a lot that isn't in the moderator handbook, to the overall moderation philosophy, that happened in other locations (forums or chat channels).

 

There's also a lot of judgement calls needed, and moderators will handle what they feel comfortable doing, have time to do, and may refer some things to other mods or staff, or just let others handle things. 

 

You can read anything into that you want, of course.

Why so opaque?  Why not put the Handbook out there, let us read it, evaluate it, and decide for ourselves?

Obviously there's something there that the Powers That Be deem to be too sensitive to reveal to the rabble! 

Also re this "moderation philosophy", sounds heavy, "Professor" Stahl.  

CheesePrix2314
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:

We have a RIGHT to see what so-called "rules" the Mods are supposedly going by as they lord it over us!

THE SECRETS OF THE HANDBOOK MUST BE REVEALED!!!

 

 

Those are the rules. The handbook basically lays out some guidance on how to apply the act of moderating to those rules. There's also a lot that isn't in the moderator handbook, to the overall moderation philosophy, that happened in other locations (forums or chat channels).

 

There's also a lot of judgement calls needed, and moderators will handle what they feel comfortable doing, have time to do, and may refer some things to other mods or staff, or just let others handle things. 

 

You can read anything into that you want, of course.

Why so opaque?  Why not put the Handbook out there, let us read it, evaluate it, and decide for ourselves?

Obviously there's something there that the Powers That Be deem to be too sensitive to reveal to the rabble! 

Also re this "moderation philosophy", sounds heavy, "Professor" Stahl.  

As said, there are no such thing as handbook. Please provide any visual evidence that moderators are given such things; if you don't have one, then don't even think about the fact that handbook exists on the chess.com realm.

Barney-Boondoggle

You know what they are afraid of, right?

If We, The People, have access to the "forbidden knowledge", if you will, whenever there's  a question or dispute about a Mod, or Staff, armchair chess.com "litigants" will get uppity –– "but the Handbook says..."

This would result in endless headaches for mods and staff.  Sort of like how now everybody is going to the doctor already self-diagnosed, thanks to the internet.

Knowledge is power.  And this is just one more dreary step on the continuum by those who walk along the rarified, velvet-carpeted Corridors of Hegemony, to maintain control over the unruly masses.

 

IMKeto

"...at least some of us are not total imbeciles.  "

Nope...but you are well on your way to full blown imbecileness.

CheesePrix2314
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:

You know what they are afraid of, right?

If We, The People, have access to the "forbidden knowledge", if you will, whenever there's  a question or dispute about a Mod, or Staff, armchair chess.com "litigants" will get uppity –– "but the Handbook says..."

This would result in endless headaches for mods and staff.  Sort of like now everybody is going to the doctor already self-diagnosed, thanks to the internet.

Knowledge is power.  And this is just one more dreary step on the continuum by those who walk along the rarified, velvet-carpeted Corridors of Hegemony to maintain control over the unruly masses.

 

Anything is not verified without proof.

batgirl
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
 

 Why not put the Handbook out there, let us read it, evaluate it, and decide for ourselves?

Frankly, because it's none of your business.  As a member you have free rein and access to whatever chess.com offers your membership level.  As long as you follow the guidelines under the user agreement, the ToS and the posting rules, moderation shouldn't even affect you.  

Barney-Boondoggle
IMBacon wrote:

"...at least some of us are not total imbeciles.  "

Nope...but you are well on your way to full blown imbecileness.

Oh, snap!!!

Btw, it's "imbecility", genius.

CheesePrix2314
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

"...at least some of us are not total imbeciles.  "

Nope...but you are well on your way to full blown imbecileness.

Oh, snap!!!

Btw, you should check your spelling before you post, genius.

At least some of us are not total i-check-literally-any-grammar-mistakes-on-chess.com.

Martin_Stahl
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:

We have a RIGHT to see what so-called "rules" the Mods are supposedly going by as they lord it over us!

THE SECRETS OF THE HANDBOOK MUST BE REVEALED!!!

 

 

Those are the rules. The handbook basically lays out some guidance on how to apply the act of moderating to those rules. There's also a lot that isn't in the moderator handbook, to the overall moderation philosophy, that happened in other locations (forums or chat channels).

 

There's also a lot of judgement calls needed, and moderators will handle what they feel comfortable doing, have time to do, and may refer some things to other mods or staff, or just let others handle things. 

 

You can read anything into that you want, of course.

Why so opaque?  Why not put the Handbook out there, let us read it, evaluate it, and decide for ourselves?

Obviously there's something there that the Powers That Be deem to be too sensitive to reveal to the rabble! 

Also re this "moderation philosophy", sounds heavy, "Professor" Stahl.  

 

If the site wants to do it, they would, but only staff can make that decision. There's nothing there that would surprise anyone that has read any of the links I provided surprise.png

CheesePrix2314
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

"...at least some of us are not total imbeciles.  "

Nope...but you are well on your way to full blown imbecileness.

Oh, snap!!!

Btw, it's "imbecility", genius.

The sentence doesn't make sense.

"You are well on your way to full blown imbecileness" is more understandable than "You are well on your way to full blown imbecility"

Martin_Stahl
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:

You know what they are afraid of, right?

If We, The People, have access to the "forbidden knowledge", if you will, whenever there's  a question or dispute about a Mod, or Staff, armchair chess.com "litigants" will get uppity –– "but the Handbook says..."

This would result in endless headaches for mods and staff.  Sort of like how now everybody is going to the doctor already self-diagnosed, thanks to the internet.

Knowledge is power.  And this is just one more dreary step on the continuum by those who walk along the rarified, velvet-carpeted Corridors of Hegemony, to maintain control over the unruly masses.

 

 

It's all about guidelines, along with some minor technical things on how to actually use the moderation tools. Being guidelines, there's a lot that is left to discretion, so even if someone had access to it, you couldn't use that to proffer any kind of real rebuttal to moderation actions.


The site could take a very heavy-handed approach and moderate very strictly to the links I provided. There would be a lot more locked topics, more muted members, etc, but the site has a moderation in moderation philosophy, and has for a while. It could be a lot more draconian.

Martin_Stahl
CheesePrix2314 wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:

You know what they are afraid of, right?

If We, The People, have access to the "forbidden knowledge", if you will, whenever there's  a question or dispute about a Mod, or Staff, armchair chess.com "litigants" will get uppity –– "but the Handbook says..."

This would result in endless headaches for mods and staff.  Sort of like now everybody is going to the doctor already self-diagnosed, thanks to the internet.

Knowledge is power.  And this is just one more dreary step on the continuum by those who walk along the rarified, velvet-carpeted Corridors of Hegemony to maintain control over the unruly masses.

 

Anything is not verified without proof.

 

Plenty of moderators and ex-moderators have stated such a thing exists. Unless we are all delusional, it exists tongue.png

IMKeto
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

"...at least some of us are not total imbeciles.  "

Nope...but you are well on your way to full blown imbecileness.

Oh, snap!!!

Btw, it's "imbecility", genius.

Just yankin your chain.  You want to think that you have somehow reinvented the wheel with your "Im gonna act all crazy on a website, and demand stuff!!!."  Please continue.  Its only been done a few billion times already.

Barney-Boondoggle
CheesePrix2314 wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

"...at least some of us are not total imbeciles.  "

Nope...but you are well on your way to full blown imbecileness.

Oh, snap!!!

Btw, it's "imbecility", genius.

The sentence doesn't make sense.

"You are well on your way to full blown imbecileness" is more understandable than "You are well on your way to full blown imbecility"

I don't think "imbecileness" is an actual English word, so...

Barney-Boondoggle

Ok, now we're being told by people in the chess.com stratosphere that "it's none of our business", and things could be "a lot more draconian".

Well, ok, I'm not a mechanic, so I get it.

Don't look under the hood!

This is Barney-Boondoggle, Chess Reporter, signing off the thread, going undercover to investigate this Breaking Story –– word on the street is that there's a new slogan in town ...

FREE THE HANDBOOK!!!

Barney-Boondoggle

Please read the soon to be published article elsewhere on the site:

          A Handbook's Tale:

       How Internet Moguls Keep Moderator Handbook Content in Digital Dungeons.

               

IMKeto

Do your job Ron!

CheesePrix2314
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
CheesePrix2314 wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

"...at least some of us are not total imbeciles.  "

Nope...but you are well on your way to full blown imbecileness.

Oh, snap!!!

Btw, it's "imbecility", genius.

The sentence doesn't make sense.

"You are well on your way to full blown imbecileness" is more understandable than "You are well on your way to full blown imbecility"

I don't think "imbecileness" is an actual English word, so...

And what if it isn't? Doesn't mean it's not valid to say "imbecileness" in the forums, genius.

Barney-Boondoggle
CheesePrix2314 wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
CheesePrix2314 wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

"...at least some of us are not total imbeciles.  "

Nope...but you are well on your way to full blown imbecileness.

Oh, snap!!!

Btw, it's "imbecility", genius.

The sentence doesn't make sense.

"You are well on your way to full blown imbecileness" is more understandable than "You are well on your way to full blown imbecility"

I don't think "imbecileness" is an actual English word, so...

And what if it isn't? Doesn't mean it's not valid to say "imbecileness" in the forums, genius.

If you want to get your knickers in a twist over defending a made-up-word in the forums, then by all means ... go for it.

CheesePrix2314
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
CheesePrix2314 wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
CheesePrix2314 wrote:
Barney-Boondoggle wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

"...at least some of us are not total imbeciles.  "

Nope...but you are well on your way to full blown imbecileness.

Oh, snap!!!

Btw, it's "imbecility", genius.

The sentence doesn't make sense.

"You are well on your way to full blown imbecileness" is more understandable than "You are well on your way to full blown imbecility"

I don't think "imbecileness" is an actual English word, so...

And what if it isn't? Doesn't mean it's not valid to say "imbecileness" in the forums, genius.

If you want to get your knickers in a twist over defending a made-up-word in the forums, then by all means ... go for it.

If you want to get your knickers in a twist over defending an existing word that doesn't make sense at all in the forums, then by all means ... go for it.