Sabo bot is overpowered

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I play many games against bots on Chess.com and I’m very confident that Sabo bot is playing way above his listed rating. He’s rated 1927, but plays stronger than bots rated 2000–2200. Not sure if this is intentional, but it might be worth reviewing.

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100%, I also play a lot against bots. Beat 1800 fairly quick, then got a good win against 2000, but I cant beat Sabo whatsoever... he plays 13+ perfect moves in a row. Hes def. above 1900

edit: just played with 2100 engine against him, he mated the 2100 in 21 moves, and next game in 28 moves. Then I tried 2400 engine which he lost against. So yea hes def. around 2200-2250 not 1921. But Ive won one game against him, thats enough for me xD Sticking to 2000 bot for now. Glad I did this because I was losing my mind. I thought I just got super bad but hes way overpowered and needs some tuning.

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Tomac90 wrote:

100%, I also play a lot against bots. Beat 1800 fairly quick, then got a good win against 2000, but I cant beat Sabo whatsoever... he plays 13+ perfect moves in a row. Hes def. above 1900

edit: just played with 2100 engine against him, he mated the 2100 in 21 moves, and next game in 28 moves. Then I tried 2400 engine which he lost against. So yea hes def. around 2200-2250 not 1921. But Ive won one game against him, thats enough for me xD Sticking to 2000 bot for now. Glad I did this because I was losing my mind. I thought I just got super bad but hes way overpowered and needs some tuning.

I was able to win one game against him also, but lost all others. And I'm able to beat basically any bot up to 2000 consistently.

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I've been trying to beat every bot I can and this is one of the bots I have been stuck on for several games now. It's rated 1927 but I just got a draw in a long game where we both had 90% accuracy. Although I take it with a grain of salt the game rating suggested I played like a 2350 and the bot played like a 2150. The crazy part is that, that felt like the bot's worst game against me and I would suggest that it objectively was since it was a draw. My rating was probably higher because I played as black that game. I had to have several nice tactical finds and incredible accuracy just to draw against a 1927 bot.

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I will add that I am playing on mobile atm and bots are known to be...interesting on mobile.

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I second this. Sabo bot is insane. The worst thing is, he often plays some trash opening, which allows you to get a comfortable position in the middlegame. But then, he starts to play perfectly like the machine he is and you can only watch desperately as you slowly slip all the advantage. It's as if the bot was made to maximize disrespect.

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Ive had the same experience. I'm starting to think that this bot makes a few of its own moves at the beginning, then just starts blasting all top engine moves. Maybe this bot is here to prepare us for people who play on chess.com that do the same (until they have their account closed for fair play)?!

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Literally made a search on google to see if someone else found Sabo bot overpowered vs. the rating. Good to see that I am not crazy.

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Same here. Just played against sabo-BOT what seemed to be a fairly decent game at the beginning. He completely crushed me. Final 2300 vs 2600. Every defensive move was immediately met with a stronger attack. Suffocating! It's a bit frustrating, but I guess it's a good reminder on how much better the higher rated players are against casual amateurs like me.

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"Sabo Pasha" likely refers to the Turkish streamer and chess enthusiast known as SaboHe gained attention for revealing a cheating module called Talisman Zero, which he claimed was used by a well-known player in 2020 and 2021 without detection. The module was designed for use in online chess platforms. 

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How can I change the engine for me

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Play a different bot

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I just beat sabo

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otaviotrompowsky wrote:

"Sabo Pasha" likely refers to the Turkish streamer and chess enthusiast known as Sabo. He gained attention for revealing a cheating module called Talisman Zero, which he claimed was used by a well-known player in 2020 and 2021 without detection. The module was designed for use in online chess platforms. 

Hmm.. I didn't know about his story. Now everything makes sense.

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Hi

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igordantasbr wrote:
otaviotrompowsky wrote:

"Sabo Pasha" likely refers to the Turkish streamer and chess enthusiast known as Sabo. He gained attention for revealing a cheating module called Talisman Zero, which he claimed was used by a well-known player in 2020 and 2021 without detection. The module was designed for use in online chess platforms. 

Hmm.. I didn't know about his story. Now everything makes sense.

LOL it definitely does make sense now. The chess.com bot creators obviously have a sense of humor

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s_h_a_d_e-7 hat geschrieben:
igordantasbr wrote:
otaviotrompowsky wrote:

"Sabo Pasha" likely refers to the Turkish streamer and chess enthusiast known as Sabo. He gained attention for revealing a cheating module called Talisman Zero, which he claimed was used by a well-known player in 2020 and 2021 without detection. The module was designed for use in online chess platforms. 

Hmm.. I didn't know about his story. Now everything makes sense.

LOL it definitely does make sense now. The chess.com bot creators obviously have a sense of humor

for real now it all makes sence haha

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Thank you @igordantasbr and all! Have shared this with the team.

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I beat Sabo on 2nd try, the first try i lost with white, but the 2nd try with black, I won!!