The Downfall of Chess.com

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ShouldBreezi

Furthermore, people are disputing chess.com's false claim that "selling an NFT takes as much energy as an email"

Thanks for mentioning it, and if anyone is curious they can check out my forum called "This is madness chess.com"

 

archaja

where is your own "forum"?

Unicorn

Are you trying to recruit people to [the other chess website]? Your points are kind of manipulative, more or less absolutely wrong. Chess.com is trying to become better and grow alongside with it’s community, not being greedy fools like you implant as like.

BarbarianGoth

I appreciate and sure community does updates on people more into chess then myself which ones to check out, apps, websites, etc. and which to avoid.  I am not as into this as many so enjoy hearing other peoples oppinions on other sites, official, youtube, links.  Etc.  sure I won't check out most of them but one day might want to here and there.  You never know when a site is going to take a turn for worse or might want to check other stuff out.  Competition makes products better not worse.

LeoTSimoes26

 lol

TheMsquare

This site will remain the best site out there. 

The biggest thing is the actual playing interface. 

It's by far the best. I've tried lichess. I've tried apps on the play store. I've tried WorldArena ( the one where you apply to create A Online Fide profile) 

They all don't come close to chess.com interface level .. 

If you want everything for free in life you won't really appreciate having it. That's my argument about the stuff lichess has "for free" that we pay for here..

Have you thought about the quality of the services provided?

Have you thought of the fact that chess.com staff also need to survive and earn a living? 

Have you thought of Job online Job creation for people worldwide?

 

Have you thought of the fact that you can make friends with sometimes very hard to reach people?

David
User interface is a personal thing. Speed / lag is dependent on so many factors, including network latency and server locations - some will find lichess snappier, others will not. But saying that there’s fewer cheaters over there is laughable when lichess doesn’t publish any info about their cheat detection approach or processes or statistics. Both sites let anyone sign up for free with just an email address, so it’s all about how quickly they can identify and close cheaters, and when people say “I can tell” what they’re demonstrating is that they don’t really understand what cheating in chess looks like and are mostly just sore losers.
BarbarianGoth

The domain name definitely helps bring people in.  But content counts and giants can fall if they don't give good service or product.  Plus companies get bought out like UFC, Twitter, etc.

BarbarianGoth

Man i would have no way of identifying a cheater.  The little I have picked up is pacing but I like a rapid pace so I probably wouldn't have noticed.  One could also accuse someone who is innocent.    Ya I just assume everyone playing is a person.  No idea how they would cheat or use some program but maybe I'm not computer nerdy enough to know about that hacker and program stuff.  Ya lots of sore losers I agree.  Usually they stall or quit or abandon when losing.

David

https://www.chess.com/club/cheating-forum is the place to discuss those things about cheating, not the public forums. Chess.com isn't a publicly listed listed, so a hostile takeover isn't possible - although maybe that's in the future, since it was only in January that they announced that a venture capital firm had invested in the company: https://www.chess.com/news/view/chesscom-gets-major-investment

I found the most interesting part about that article is this quote from @erik:

Our mission is to grow the game of chess! 

and later on:

This is about bringing the game to new people and new places, and about doing the things we always wanted to do

There's the strategic vision: Chess.com is interested in growing the game overall. That strategy makes sense for the market leader: yes, some of those new chess players will find that they prefer other platforms and go there, but Chess.com is still the biggest platform and will still therefore get the most benefit out of growing that overall market.

Lichess is not so interested in reaching new users or introducing the game of chess to new players: they're an open source platform, which means decisions about where they're going and what they do is driven largely by the existing developer base. Mostly, although I'm sure Thibault Duplessis has an enormous amount of clout as well.

ericthatwho
Caedrel wrote:

https://www.chess.com/club/cheating-forum is the place to discuss those things about cheating, not the public forums. Chess.com isn't a publicly listed listed, so a hostile takeover isn't possible - although maybe that's in the future, since it was only in January that they announced that a venture capital firm had invested in the company: https://www.chess.com/news/view/chesscom-gets-major-investment

I found the most interesting part about that article is this quote from @erik:

Our mission is to grow the game of chess! 

and later on:

This is about bringing the game to new people and new places, and about doing the things we always wanted to do

There's the strategic vision: Chess.com is interested in growing the game overall. That strategy makes sense for the market leader: yes, some of those new chess players will find that they prefer other platforms and go there, but Chess.com is still the biggest platform and will still therefore get the most benefit out of growing that overall market.

Lichess is not so interested in reaching new users or introducing the game of chess to new players: they're an open source platform, which means decisions about where they're going and what they do is driven largely by the existing developer base. Mostly, although I'm sure Thibault Duplessis has an enormous amount of clout as well.

If this is true it means the price goes up (maybe just ads) or less features that relate to the decreasing paying players (remember they pay for everything the increasing free members get. There are better sites for chess (but they charge a a fee) they don't advertise you to death.

Now days non ms web browsers have ad blockers anti-trackers built in) Chess.com should accept this and make a plan based on membership (paid) not advertising and not ca. politics.

BarbarianGoth

How do you know this adg?

chessterchief

I understand that a lot of people are concerned about the number of cheaters. but you can't make something both very user friendly and cheat proof. just look at airports. no one likes being screened six hundred times. so, the options are let a couple cheaters thru for a while, or have a lot of false positives and having to enter the name of your maternal grandfather's first dog every time you sign in.

BarbarianGoth

Ya I don't get the purpose in cheating even if one could and it were true.  Chess is a test.  Its like stealing money in Monopoly when they aren't looking.  You know you didn't win fair in square.  It's to test oneself/ own mind and abilities.  Makes no sense to me to cheat unless there were financial incentive. Plus here its about pride.  Cheating to me is pointless.

BarbarianGoth

Not that I have any idea what it is on here or how to do it.  Other then people dropping out to avoid getting checkmated or stalling.

BarbarianGoth

Or aborting right away because you didn't or which side you started with.

BarbarianGoth

This thread is never going to end.

chessterchief

chess.com removed the abort feature. 

chessterchief

also, now you can not resign until move ten to combat sandbaggers.

BarbarianGoth

Did they?  Good news if true on the abort.