Tournaments should automatically disallow people outside the ratings range from joining

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I love playing Daily tournaments, and I understand that if you go above the tournament's ratings range then that doesn't and shouldn't disqualify you from continuing to compete. However, pretty much any tournament that you join with a limit will have players outside that limit joining.

So, for example, if you go to join an "under 1200" tournament, you'll find 1300s and maybe even 1400s joining. I feel like it'd be easy for it to be built in to the site software that when you set a high (and low) limit on Elo for people who join the tournament that if someone outside that range tries to join they get a message telling them that they can't join because their Elo is outside that tournament's range.

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TiffanyProblem wrote:

I love playing Daily tournaments, and I understand that if you go above the tournament's ratings range then that doesn't and shouldn't disqualify you from continuing to compete. However, pretty much any tournament that you join with a limit will have players outside that limit joining.

 

So, for example, if you go to join an "under 1200" tournament, you'll find 1300s and maybe even 1400s joining. I feel like it'd be easy for it to be built in to the site software that when you set a high (and low) limit on Elo for people who join the tournament that if someone outside that range tries to join they get a message telling them that they can't join because their Elo is outside that tournament's range.

 

When that happens, the member joined before their rating was outside the range.

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No, that's not necessarily true. I said in the first post that going above the limit while actually competing isn't the same thing.

Go look at available tournaments which haven't started yet, and you'll find some. Literally the first available tournament right now: https://www.chess.com/tournament/62nd-chess-com-thematic-tournament-danish-gambit-1000-1199

The highest limit is 1199, and that's even listed in the title of the tournament. What's the Elo of the highest-rated player who's joined? 1614. In fact, none of the 12 people listed on the first page of people who have already signed up are 1199 or below. The tournament has *not* started yet. It's even an official chess.com tournament.

It's not always that bad, but it's far from uncommon. One of the first tournaments I ever played in was an under 1000 tournament. My first opponent was >1400. I messaged them, and the tournament organiser. No response from either, and nothing was done.

And it's honestly baffling that this feature of the website wasn't coded to prevent this from happening.

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TiffanyProblem wrote:

No, that's not necessarily true. I said in the first post that going above the limit while actually competing isn't the same thing.

Go look at available tournaments which haven't started yet, and you'll find some. Literally the first available tournament right now: https://www.chess.com/tournament/62nd-chess-com-thematic-tournament-danish-gambit-1000-1199

The highest limit is 1199, and that's even listed in the title of the tournament. What's the Elo of the highest-rated player who's joined? 1614. In fact, none of the 12 people listed on the first page of people who have already signed up are 1199 or below. The tournament has *not* started yet. It's even an official chess.com tournament.

It's not always that bad, but it's far from uncommon. One of the first tournaments I ever played in was an under 1000 tournament. My first opponent was >1400. I messaged them, and the tournament organiser. No response from either, and nothing was done.

And it's honestly baffling that this feature of the website wasn't coded to prevent this from happening.

 

In those tournaments, the players automatically get transferred to the right section and they signed up while their rating was low enough to join 

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As proof, when I tried to join it doesn't let me.

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Martin_Stahl wrote:

As proof, when I tried to join it doesn't let me.

 

Are those tourments rated? (ones that force a positon)

Also, It is annoying to get paired asgint a player 1000 elo below you and you have to win with no reward.

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Defaultedwastaken wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:

As proof, when I tried to join it doesn't let me.

 

Are those tourments rated? (ones that force a positon)

Also, It is annoying to get paired asgint a player 1000 elo below you and you have to win with no reward.

 

The site thematic tournaments are rated and as mentioned, players outside the rating range at the start, get moved to a section that matches their current rating.

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Perhaps there's moderation on official tournaments that there isn't on other tournaments, because I have definitely faced opponents who are way outside the range in the first round of tournaments.