All The Reasons We Hate V3!

Kasparov will write a new book. Winter is Coming: Why erik and the Enemies of V2 Must Be Stopped. Will be published on October 27th, 2016. 

• I can't seem to find "recent content" links so finding this, the forum I started, was a pain in the neck; if you don't get alerts, good luck finding your old content!
• I made a thematic "Zuckertort" opening tourney and that thematic is gone; created using custom FEN which means at the end of this, the first 4 moves of the game will be gone or wrong; lots of themes not there anymore.

Even afteer getting an email alert that someone I follow posted something, it was impossible to find. Clicked on the link in the email and could not find it anywhere. I had to switch back to v2 to figure out what/who it was. 

V3 is horrible.

As CaptainPike posted in the original post:

"4. The great look and feel of chess.com is gone; replaced with some bland interface that looks more like a social networking site instead of the distinctive, easy interface of V2. It seems no attempt was made to retain the old interface look and feel."

I think that is by design, to move towards a more "social networking" site. Perhaps Erik has the grandiose idea of being the Mark Schmuckerberg of the chess world.

No thanks.

OnceUponaCheckmate  

let's make a petition

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/the-truth-behind-iron-man

I also do hate V3

Too late they have aready sunk REAL money into V3. They should have taking a poll and ask folks what they liked/needed in this site and gone from there.

They could have flipped a switch in V2 and showed us that.

I hate the chess analysis function in V3. In V2, I would play a few games, then ask for an analysis of each one and then review the analysis the next day. In V3, the analysis happens in real time - I've not found a way to replicate the old functionality. So I have been going back to V2 to do the analysis. 

I could not use the Opening Explorer anymore to drill down to see strengths/weaknesses in moves any more in V3.  V3 is just a bunch of pie-charts and general stats.  I prefer the V2 version of the Opening Explorer.

@Batgirl - v1 to v2 was not that great of a stretch.  v2 to v3, however, is with the complete revamp of the user interface, juxtaposing a lot of the functions to different areas.  My thoughts are that Erik has undervalued the player-interaction aspect of chess.com in the new v3.  I realize he's probably been under pressure to 'limit' interaction due to numerous harrassment and spamming claims in v2---but throw out the few bad apples and the current version of player-interaction in v2 is far better than that of v3.

Where  in v3 do you see a link of recent forums in a quaint list on the right-hand side of the screen? 

Each time I visit v3, I am reminded of how discombobulated everything is.  Club/Group functions are no longer grouped together.  One needs to know how to manuever through the menus to find stuff again.  In V2 - shortcut links were never far away, more-or-less on the same page to link to the stuff you needed.  V3 Club notes are no where near V3 Club matches.  And, Vote Chess?? hah.. good luck finding it.  You need to know where it is to accidentally find it.

Finally, as many have noted, V3 loads everything in to separate panes.  Each pane requires a separate AJAX trip to load content into the panes... which means every context switch takes longer in V3 than in V2. 

The dashboard layout of V3 is something that many web designers have come to love; its the "in" thing to code up these days.  Unfortunately, in chess.com's case, it does not work very well.  It does not engender one to want to participate in clubs much any more.. heck, the first thing most visitors see is the news articles chess.com wants to promote.  After a while, a new user MAY figure out what a 'club' is and where to find the main 'clubs' page.  Well, only the biggest 'clubs' are listed on the main club page.  I ventured a proposal to the V3 developers long ago that clubs ought to be able to advertise based on 'tags' or 'physical/regional' location or 'activiness' (i.e., more active clubs would appear before inactive ones).  Well, that seems to have fallen to the way-side.  Only Chess University and the other extremely large clubs are visible on the main clubs page.  A new user would not be able to find a theme'd or regional club without further effort or research.

And, yes, because the new V3 interface is paned, the page looks darker.  I had a hard time with my eyes 👀 going from dark-to-light-to-dark-to-light regions across the web page.  I finally found a background that works better.  But, I cannot use the same background on my laptop as I do with my android phone.  The chess pieces do not contrast well on the phone screen.

  The chess.com classic android app was awesome for its lightweight, quick-response times when I just needed to get some moves in.  It didn't have any interaction in it, but that's not why I used it.  If I needed interaction, I'd load up the android chrome browser and zoom in/out as needed.  The current v3 app for the Android is heavy, like a browser, it tries to load tons of extras which weigh it down.  I can no longer click through a bunch of games as I once was able to.

... I can go on.

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Does it do anything besides change the colors?

It would be lots better to use the "Report a Bug" feature in V3 to log each of the issues mentioned - that adds it to the bug report, and it's the number of bugs on that report that is largely influencing the publish date of V3 - as the number of reported errors goes down, the closer we are to final release.

All due respect, David, but I'm not being paid to report 'bugs'.  I'm paying for a service.  I, and others here, are voicing our consumer experience voices to you and the others on the staff that might heed such. 

Whether its here, here (https://www.chess.com/groups/forum/chesscom-v3), or in another forum, your customers are voincing their opinions on the new site.  Aside from a core group of whom I would deem 'yes men', I'm not finding a whole lot of enthusiasm yet for the new version.

Further, its difficult for anyone to list entirely, one-by-one, each and every 'bug' found in the new system.  A side-by-side comparison is problematic in the virtual world, as one's focus determines which parts & points one sees in a given window to view.  Each user experiences a different window of the new/old system.  Yet, as you can see from this forum alone, there are threads of common concern in the new version.  Enough I would think to cause serious pause to those trying to push the release date of V3 to the whole world.

And, .. be wary of your group of 'yes-men'---they aren't doing anyone any favors.

I use a custom theme anyway--which I understand is unsupported in v3, and there's no intention of changing this--so if it just switches colors, that's kind of... not useful.

WAIT. Waaaaaaaaaaaaait wait wait wait wait wait. David, are you saying that if we flood the v3 bug report system we can indefinitely delay v3's release? :3

If enough people report the same thing as a bug, I'm pretty sure that would get the development team's attention.

When you do an analysis of a game, the engine is usually wrong in at least 1 move per game, saying a normal move is a blunder. Plus, when you close the analysis window, you cannot open it again. If you want to see it again, you have to puss the botton of analyse again, wasting another 5 or 6 minutes.

It is slower than V2.

The leaderboard of team/clubs/groups is completly wrong.

The general leaderbard is missing players, and not because they haven't played recently or enough games. There are players missing!

Team matches only show the first 10 sits. If you want to see them all, you have to click again. What is important about a match, is indeed the match, the games, the players. Not the comments! If you are going to make something disappear for some reason (whatever you think it is a good reason to do this), then hide the comments, but not the players!

People can post comments everywhere. While this can be good for active and helpful members, so far I have only seen idiots posting nonsense in tournaments they haven't join, team matches they are not involved in, etc...

When you invite someone to your tournament, you can see a huge list of people already invited but pending to accept or decline (I don't even know how  to decline an invitation), if I click in the cross of one invited players (to withdraw him before he accepts so I can send more invitations), it doesnt just disappear and I can keep withdrawing or inviting as it would be logic. Instead, the whole page reloads but without that person on the list now. That also happens with the game explorer I belive it was, every move you make, the page reloads again.