Dangerous flaw in block member system

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theoreticalboy

What can I say, the people have spoken Tongue out

Blocking is, I usually find, a juvenile way to avoid dealing with contrary opinions.  There's no mechanism to protest the stupidity of blocks, which is why we get situations like TheGrobe making a perfectly valid suggestion in one of Karl's threads, who then promptly calls it hi-jacking and blocks him.

Arctor
checkmateibeatu wrote:
How are you against blocking!? I don't know why I didn't block them, but disaster struck in two of my threads called "Best player ever?" and "Second best player ever?". They actually voted Lenny Bongcloud and pdela as the two best players ever!

The moderators should deal with silly stuff like that. Bring it to their attention and if they judge it to be inappropriate they'll remove it.

But consider for example if someone had said Magnus Carlsen is the greatest player ever and you didn't agree with that and decided to block them. Is that fair?

checkmateibeatu
No. But if they didn't seem to respect my opinion that Kasparov was the best, then I would and have before.
MsJean
theoreticalboy wrote:

Holding conversations across multiple threads?  Seems like it would lead to some ludicrous "he said, she said" scenario.  But then, I'm against the idea of blocking from the outset, so I've a horse in this race.


I have been on both sides of the issue. I agree with theoreticalboy :) Your own site is your private site and under your control. A public forum is a public forum and needs to stay that way.

.......As long as you follow the forums guidelines ???
.......Post if you want to people have the right to comment
.......Dont track if you dont want to read it

If you think you are being abused then talk to Chess.com. You may not always agree with their decision but its the fair thing to do. 

clms_chess
checkmateibeatu wrote:
So when has this actually happened?

 Yes, It happened to me here.

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/talent-and-chess?page=9

#172. Yes, he did not like my comment thanking the moderators for deleting what was certainly an inappropriate comment...LOL.

I suspect though he didn't like my posts earlier (e.g. #156) that challenged his OP... as they went unanswered by him...lol.

But its cool... I guess I took to being finally being blocked by someone as a right of passage...lol... to posting here on chess.com forums. 

bigpoison
theoreticalboy wrote:

What can I say, the people have spoken

Blocking is, I usually find, a juvenile way to avoid dealing with contrary opinions.  There's no mechanism to protest the stupidity of blocks, which is why we get situations like TheGrobe making a perfectly valid suggestion in one of Karl's threads, who then promptly calls it hi-jacking and blocks him.


Yeah, but how can you really blame Karl_?  TheGrobe is a big bully, all the time using logic and pragmatic arguments to make his points.

All us kids hate 'im.

MsJean
bigpoison wrote:
theoreticalboy wrote:

What can I say, the people have spoken

Blocking is, I usually find, a juvenile way to avoid dealing with contrary opinions.  There's no mechanism to protest the stupidity of blocks, which is why we get situations like TheGrobe making a perfectly valid suggestion in one of Karl's threads, who then promptly calls it hi-jacking and blocks him.


Yeah, but how can you really blame Karl_?  TheGrobe is a big bully, all the time using logic and pragmatic arguments to make his points.

All us kids hate 'im.


lol

oinquarki
checkmateibeatu wrote:
How are you against blocking!? I don't know why I didn't block them, but disaster struck in two of my threads called "Best player ever?" and "Second best player ever?". They actually voted Lenny Bongcloud and pdela as the two best players ever!

Windy?

checkmateibeatu
I won't ask...
Caliphigia

The aliens are playing chess on this site and they'll only block you if you are on the way to uncover them. Ask MIB if you don't believe me.

DeathScepter

This argument assumes that the moderators would tolerate a verbal assault on a member, which they don't. If someone is bashing anyone on a thread, they will have a short lived membership. Say someone blocks me for the sake of badmouthing me in a thread without being stopped, I wouldn't need to hop on their forum and fight to get my opinion in, I would just talk to the moderators about a breach of the membership agreement.

TheGrobe

My ears are burning.

That's it -- all of you:  Blocked!

MsJean
DeathScepter wrote:

This argument assumes that the moderators would tolerate a verbal assault on a member, which they don't. If someone is bashing anyone on a thread, they will have a short lived membership. Say someone blocks me for the sake of badmouthing me in a thread without being stopped, I wouldn't need to hop on their forum and fight to get my opinion in, I would just talk to the moderators about a breach of the membership agreement.


Hey Death this is right and they will help! What I found was my moderator looked at the other person and what they were doing too. They tried to be fair and when you are on the other side of the issue that is important too.

Even though for that moment I felt differently Yell

fissionfowl
thekibitzer wrote:

Do you really need the use of the word dangerous?

I think it makes sense too. If someone is constantly giving abuse towards you and you block them, you have a right to block them from your threads. I can exclude who I want from my conversations, that is up to me. The problem only occurs if the one sending the abuse does the blocking, which I guess would be very rare, and even if they did start talking rubbish, it would either get deleted or be shot down by the good peeps of chess.com.


But I don't think anyone owns the thread just because they made the original post. I agree with the OP. Either someone breaks the rules or they don't, and it should be up to the moderaters to decide IMO.

MsJean

@fissionfowl...what a cute avatar :)

TheGrobe

While I do agree that blocks should only apply to one-on-one interactions (and should be automatically reciprocal), I think "dangerous" might be overstating it a little.

checkmateibeatu
I agree. It isn't really that dangerous because if someone hated someone else that much the rest of the forum members would know about it, thus making that whole hate thread pointless.
MsJean

Still the forums should not be blocked...

Arctor

It would be nice if a member of staff could comment instead of ignoring the thread and hoping it will disappear

TheGrobe

You sure you don't have them all blocked?