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theoreticalboy
theoreticalboy
Aug 11, 2011
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#21

What can I say, the people have spoken Tongue out

Blocking is, I usually find, a juvenile way to avoid dealing with contrary opinions.  There's no mechanism to protest the stupidity of blocks, which is why we get situations like TheGrobe making a perfectly valid suggestion in one of Karl's threads, who then promptly calls it hi-jacking and blocks him.

Arctor
Arctor
Aug 11, 2011
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#22
checkmateibeatu wrote:
How are you against blocking!? I don't know why I didn't block them, but disaster struck in two of my threads called "Best player ever?" and "Second best player ever?". They actually voted Lenny Bongcloud and pdela as the two best players ever!

The moderators should deal with silly stuff like that. Bring it to their attention and if they judge it to be inappropriate they'll remove it.

But consider for example if someone had said Magnus Carlsen is the greatest player ever and you didn't agree with that and decided to block them. Is that fair?

checkmateibeatu
checkmateibeatu
Aug 11, 2011
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#23
No. But if they didn't seem to respect my opinion that Kasparov was the best, then I would and have before.
MsJean
MsJean
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Aug 11, 2011
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#24
theoreticalboy wrote:

Holding conversations across multiple threads?  Seems like it would lead to some ludicrous "he said, she said" scenario.  But then, I'm against the idea of blocking from the outset, so I've a horse in this race.

I have been on both sides of the issue. I agree with theoreticalboy :) Your own site is your private site and under your control. A public forum is a public forum and needs to stay that way.

.......As long as you follow the forums guidelines ???
.......Post if you want to people have the right to comment
.......Dont track if you dont want to read it

If you think you are being abused then talk to Chess.com. You may not always agree with their decision but its the fair thing to do. 

clms_chess
clms_chess
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Aug 11, 2011
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#25
checkmateibeatu wrote:
So when has this actually happened?

 Yes, It happened to me here.

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/talent-and-chess?page=9

#172. Yes, he did not like my comment thanking the moderators for deleting what was certainly an inappropriate comment...LOL.

I suspect though he didn't like my posts earlier (e.g. #156) that challenged his OP... as they went unanswered by him...lol.

But its cool... I guess I took to being finally being blocked by someone as a right of passage...lol... to posting here on chess.com forums. 

bigpoison
bigpoison
Aug 11, 2011
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#26
theoreticalboy wrote:

What can I say, the people have spoken

Blocking is, I usually find, a juvenile way to avoid dealing with contrary opinions.  There's no mechanism to protest the stupidity of blocks, which is why we get situations like TheGrobe making a perfectly valid suggestion in one of Karl's threads, who then promptly calls it hi-jacking and blocks him.

Yeah, but how can you really blame Karl_?  TheGrobe is a big bully, all the time using logic and pragmatic arguments to make his points.

All us kids hate 'im.

MsJean
MsJean
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Aug 11, 2011
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#27
bigpoison wrote:
theoreticalboy wrote:

What can I say, the people have spoken

Blocking is, I usually find, a juvenile way to avoid dealing with contrary opinions.  There's no mechanism to protest the stupidity of blocks, which is why we get situations like TheGrobe making a perfectly valid suggestion in one of Karl's threads, who then promptly calls it hi-jacking and blocks him.

Yeah, but how can you really blame Karl_?  TheGrobe is a big bully, all the time using logic and pragmatic arguments to make his points.

All us kids hate 'im.

lol

oinquarki
oinquarki
Aug 12, 2011
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#28
checkmateibeatu wrote:
How are you against blocking!? I don't know why I didn't block them, but disaster struck in two of my threads called "Best player ever?" and "Second best player ever?". They actually voted Lenny Bongcloud and pdela as the two best players ever!

Windy?

checkmateibeatu
checkmateibeatu
Aug 12, 2011
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#29
I won't ask...
Caliphigia
Caliphigia
Aug 12, 2011
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#30

The aliens are playing chess on this site and they'll only block you if you are on the way to uncover them. Ask MIB if you don't believe me.

DeathScepter
DeathScepter
Aug 12, 2011
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#31

This argument assumes that the moderators would tolerate a verbal assault on a member, which they don't. If someone is bashing anyone on a thread, they will have a short lived membership. Say someone blocks me for the sake of badmouthing me in a thread without being stopped, I wouldn't need to hop on their forum and fight to get my opinion in, I would just talk to the moderators about a breach of the membership agreement.

TheGrobe
TheGrobe
Aug 12, 2011
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#32

My ears are burning.

That's it -- all of you:  Blocked!

MsJean
MsJean
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Aug 12, 2011
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#33
DeathScepter wrote:

This argument assumes that the moderators would tolerate a verbal assault on a member, which they don't. If someone is bashing anyone on a thread, they will have a short lived membership. Say someone blocks me for the sake of badmouthing me in a thread without being stopped, I wouldn't need to hop on their forum and fight to get my opinion in, I would just talk to the moderators about a breach of the membership agreement.

Hey Death this is right and they will help! What I found was my moderator looked at the other person and what they were doing too. They tried to be fair and when you are on the other side of the issue that is important too.

Even though for that moment I felt differently Yell

fissionfowl
fissionfowl
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Aug 12, 2011
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#34
thekibitzer wrote:

Do you really need the use of the word dangerous?

I think it makes sense too. If someone is constantly giving abuse towards you and you block them, you have a right to block them from your threads. I can exclude who I want from my conversations, that is up to me. The problem only occurs if the one sending the abuse does the blocking, which I guess would be very rare, and even if they did start talking rubbish, it would either get deleted or be shot down by the good peeps of chess.com.

But I don't think anyone owns the thread just because they made the original post. I agree with the OP. Either someone breaks the rules or they don't, and it should be up to the moderaters to decide IMO.

MsJean
MsJean
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Aug 12, 2011
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#35

@fissionfowl...what a cute avatar :)

TheGrobe
TheGrobe
Aug 12, 2011
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#36

While I do agree that blocks should only apply to one-on-one interactions (and should be automatically reciprocal), I think "dangerous" might be overstating it a little.

checkmateibeatu
checkmateibeatu
Aug 12, 2011
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#37
I agree. It isn't really that dangerous because if someone hated someone else that much the rest of the forum members would know about it, thus making that whole hate thread pointless.
MsJean
MsJean
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Aug 12, 2011
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#38

Still the forums should not be blocked...

Arctor
Arctor
Aug 12, 2011
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#39

It would be nice if a member of staff could comment instead of ignoring the thread and hoping it will disappear

TheGrobe
TheGrobe
Aug 12, 2011
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#40

You sure you don't have them all blocked?