Martin if your real problem is that expression I used with my english i tell you once and for all that I meant there are many trolls in this forum who degrade the quality of this conversation about chess issues in V2/V3 and most of them are V3 supporters
so please stop spamming on that comment
this explains why the 50 members differrence from the first 36 hours is keeping steady instead of increasing rapidly from then on, which was the statistically expected
if you have rigged the ballot then we can speak about a coupe d'etat of v3 small number supporters in chess,com who want to impose V3 on the other vast majority
Umm, no. You are reading much more into my post than exists.
The only reason you "statistically expected" an increase is because that is what you wanted to expect. I have no doubt that a majority of people that have used v2 for any length of time, prefer v2. I also wouldn't be surprised at a 60/30/10 split in the voting with a larger sampling at all and maybe even a little higher on v2.
The poll is only being answered by people that really care to answer. Less than 1% of active members have voted and probably less than 1% of active forum members (though it could be as much as 5% 
of those), which is already a subset of the site membership.
But, that is what it is. If this last post doesn't clarify things for you, then I'll let you believe whatever you want. 
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Spacebux wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
..and not a word, Martin, when he labels us antagonists as 'whiners'??? One-sided much?
I personally think basically suggesting a member's chess skill means their opinion on something as subjective as design preferences is worse than saying someone is whining.
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Wow. . . . wow.
Martin_Stahl wrote:
The only reason you "statistically expected" an increase is because that is what you wanted to expect. I have no doubt that a majority of people that have used v2 for any length of time, prefer v2. I also wouldn't be surprised at a 60/30/10 split in the voting with a larger sampling at all and maybe even a little higher on v2.
The poll is only being answered by people that really care to answer. Less than 1% of active members have voted and probably less than 1% of active forum members (though it could be as much as 5% of those), which is already a subset of the site membership.
But, that is what it is. If this last post doesn't clarify things for you, then I'll let you believe whatever you want.
Thank you Martin
this time i totally agree with you and i want to please you as you are a moderator to forward the idea of sending this poll through chess com system to all the active members at once.
thank you in advance for your kind consideration and your sincerity as well.
This topic is getting me to cringe and is nit picky. I wouldnt bother commenting anymore.
I'm just a regular member. Also as far I know, erik is still reading these, so he will see your suggestion. I very seriously doubt it will happen.
As I said, staff can see other metrics and erik has already said v2 is going away. I have seen a lot of other things changed, based on feedback, such as pagination on games archives (there are a lot of others but that is one I didn't think was going to change), and I'm sure there are some additional changes that will make v3 better (erik has posted some things are going live early in the year). v2 going away isn't one of the things I see changing, though I guess it could stick around longer than I'm expecting (or wanting) it to.
I put down my AK yet again, and and throw my own poop at the whiners and suggestions that I lack chess 'quality'. I'm only a monkey! I at least, support this site financially. I see many of the harshest critics do not. Let them have absolutely no say in either matter..
and being able to contribute financially makes you the better man ,obviously 'no question there at all' ,game set and match ,
monkeywithgun wrote:
I put down my AK yet again, and and throw my own poop at the whiners and suggestions that I lack chess 'quality'. I'm only a monkey! I at least, support this site financially. I see many of the harshest critics do not. Let them have absolutely no say in either matter..
thank you Donald Trump aka ( MWG) for showing us the errors of our ways ,We are truely humbled in your presence ,
In v3's Tactics Trainer ("Tactics," in v3), how do I click through the solution to a problem move by move instead of having the solution whiz by me too fast for me to absorb easily?
And is it possible to get the v2 view back? Not "Old Chess.com," which is *NOT* v2 and does *NOT* have the convenience of v2, but v2 itself?
@Spacebux
Run buddy, run.
When people can't indulge in an intellectual debate, they resort to one of these two things. Either reply with sarcasm or reply with insults. Looks like you've chosen the first path and I don't blame you. However, I accept your resignation.
You made me laugh, though. Thank you for that.
Aww thank you for that. I'm glad you found my posts hilarious, laughter is the best medicine. Keep laughing.
Did you not see the myriad of posts in this forum from the get-go about users complaining about the layout of the User Interface? Did you selectively not read ~30-40% of the posts here?
Oh yes I have, majority of those posts are useless rants from people who don't have or can't provide some time required to learn a new interface. But I thought you had a different issue, but no, you too belong to the same class of people who are too lazy to move on. Had I known this before, I wouldn't have replied to your post in the first place.
You live in some Fantasy World where every new version of every software program ever written is deemed "progressive". Don't you?
Obviously not, but you sure seem to be living in your own fantasy world. A world where people use the same user interface forever, a world where there is no space for creativity, a place where there is no free thinking, a place where a person who comes with a new idea gets shut down immediately. But fortunately for us, this is not your fantasy world where people are still stuck on Windows 95 but I'm sure you are.
You are the kind of person who fears change, in fact you have an "irrational fear for change" but I understand completely where you're coming from. Your argument seems to be that V2 has always worked for me and I'm comfortable with it and I understand it so I prefer to stick with it. But why do you think each version of Windows looks different from its predecessor? Why doesn't Windows 10 still look like Windows 95? Want to know the answer? It's because people like you who fear change make up only a minuscule of the world's population, so much so that their thoughts can be neglected, this is the exact same reason why no one gives a damn about your thoughts here.
Sorry, since cost (i.e., free stuff) seems to be a huge thing in your life, last I checked, SCID was free, as are other options.
Oh so now you want me to download Scid? How far are you willing to go to prove your point? Why should I download Scid just to analyse a game that I play here on the live server when I can do it in a matter of seconds just by opening a new tab?
Also about Scid, does it show you the number of inaccuracies, mistakes, blunders that you made? Does it give any information about the cp loss or CAPS score? Does it show you the evaluation graph of the game? No. Actually Scid doesn't even have an analysis feature. You just load the game and switch on Stockfish and stare at the gazillion lines it shows from a position. How is this helpful? You see why you should do some research before posting something? It's exactly for this reason.
LOL. You keep changing the conditions of the base argument.
Tell me, what part of my argument did I change? My base argument was that it is really easy to do a quick blunder check your games in V3. Why would the browser not be open already if you want to do that? You know one thing that shouldn't be open when you're playing live games, it's your ChessBase software for obvious reasons.
The premise here is incorrect. No, it is not 10 minutes. The last one I did with ~60 moves took chess.com about ~1 minute to process.
Huh? I just submitted a game for analysis in V2 and I got this message - Thank you for submitting the game for computer analysis. This process might take several hours, you will get a message once it is complete. Who should I believe?
After about 7 minutes I received a message giving me a very primitive analysis of my game. V3's analysis has so much more statistics to look at and nope there is no evaluation graph.
I can tell you how to do that easily with the V2 engine analysis; from 100%, subtract % of inconsistencies, mistakes, & blunders shown in the V2 analysis. I hope you can still do simple math after a 3-minute game.
So you're telling me that I should grab a calculator after each game, wait for V2's analysis and do all those calculations to get the cp loss and CAPS score? And you call this method better than that of V3 in which all those statistics are readily presented to you in a readable format? Hello? Is your brain still functioning?
And do you even know what cp loss means? You think it is something that can be calculated just by looking at the percentage of mistakes/inaccuracies? This shows how simpleminded you are. Centipawn loss is calculated by taking the sum of the difference between the computer evaluation of your move and the evaluation of the computer's top choice and averaging it over all the moves, there is no way you calculate something like that after each game. CAPS is something even more complicated.
And who cares if you don't buy the CAPS score provided in V3, it is a new statistic which might help someone else while analyzing their game.
And, yeah, V2 gives me plenty of visual representations of how the game unfolded. Thanks for playing.
Oh really? V2 gives you an evaluation graph too? I never knew about this feature. Now, can you please tell me how I can find this feature in V2?
but I'm telling you from personal experience
So now you're asking me to believe in the life experience of a simpleminded person who has an irrational fear for change? Thank you but I'll pass. You call your arguments logical, your arguments are anything but logical. The only argument you put forth to say club tournaments wont work in "personal experience" which from your posts is hardly reliable.
Flattering way of conceding the point.
In case you didn't notice, I was making fun of you there. But I'm not surprised that you didn't get that, after all this is not the first time you've missed something obvious.
Thanks for playing.
Oh so, this is a game for you. Why you couldn't find any kids of your same age to play with?
Sorry but this statement made me stop reading the rest of your post.
i didn't say anything about voting many times
you said that
and i guess only the members of the staff can vote many times since you said that
cause i'd like to know what do you mean by telling this inappropriate and rude thing to me
I mean which is this way you clearly know of voting many times? Explain to us, how someone can vote many times?
cause i don't really get you
Are we experiencing a language barrier here?
Nice. 
what do you mean by that "nice' comment Nimzo?
You have opened that strawpoll and I expect from you at least to be surprised by what moderator Martin Stahll has written
that it could be easy to him to vote many times because he knows how to do it but he does not want to tell details
did you vote for V2 or V3?
You didn't tell us yet
In v3's Tactics Trainer ("Tactics," in v3), how do I click through the solution to a problem move by move instead of having the solution whiz by me too fast for me to absorb easily?
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You can step through the solution using the arrows to the right of the time.
what do you mean by that "nice' comment Nimzo?
You have opened that strawpoll and I expect from you at least to be surprised by what moderator Martin Stahll has written
that it could be easy to him to vote many times because he knows how to do it but he does not want to tell details
did you vote for V2 or V3?
You didn't tell us yet
I found his reply very witty and funny, so I commented nice.
Of course you can use proxies to vote multiple times, but I don't think the average member will so far unless they're very sick. I'm not aware of the other methods which can be used to vote multiple times but I'm sure there are a lot more.
And I also don't believe that Chess.com staff voted multiple times, if they did, why is V2 leading the poll?
I voted for V3.
SCID can do all that. You can auto-analyse, mark/define blunders and see a score graph. For the latter, it is only really useful if you score every move during auto-analysis though. Pretty sure Chessbase can too.
I know I rarely use the Chess.com analysis, though I am intrigued some on the CAPS feature.
so you have voted for V3 and you find "nice' the way a moderator offends a descent member of the site who followed your instructions last time in order to take my first screenshot and post it here, i don't even know what proxies are... so please do not approve the adress of disrespecting comment to me by the moderator Martin Stahll
as far as your question about why the v2 is leading , many people are wandering why V2 is leading only by such a small number?!?!
but i think we have already got an idea of what is happenning in your strawpoll
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Bellerophontis wrote:
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As far as monkeywithguns i can only tell that V3 supporters sometimes and not rarely seem to lack chess quality
Was that really called for?
..and not a word, Martin, when he labels us antagonists as 'whiners'??? One-sided much?
I personally think basically suggesting a member's chess skill means their opinion on something as subjective as design preferences is worse than saying someone is whining.
I have previously seen other little denigrations bandied about too, and by a subjective feel, more come from members posting anti-v3/pro-v2. There may be some bias there, not going to claim there isn't. I may have even posted some, what I consider minor ones myself, though I wouldn't deign to try to say chess skill improves/disproves a discussion on anything but actual chess.