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artfizz
paul211 wrote:

Addressing artfizz and Tyzer, you have missed my 2 important points I brought up. So removing all of my tergiversation or verbiage to be more transparent, my 2 points are:

1. I did not see anywhere where Erik announced the new auto tracking feature, if any link please do provide.

2. I did not read anywhere that Erik was excited about reaching the 3 million members. Today February 20Tth, 2011, the members are at 2,991, 872 and at this rate I predict that the 3 million mark will be reached in 2 days from today on February 22, 2011.

To artfizz, yes I am tracking Erik. However I am not familiar with how to track the webmaster do you have a link?

Thanks to all for making these suggestions.


webmaster is another staffer (a bot). Just track him as you would any other member. He publicised the AutoTracking change (albeit a bit late!) so that Erik didn't have to.

 

Most of the excitement about reaching the 1 millionth and the 2 millionth marks were generated by ordinary users in the forums e.g. 

When Will The 2,000,000th Member Join?

Who Will Be The 1,100,000th Member?

Chess.com's Millionth Member!!!

The 2 Millionth person

Chess.com's Millionth Member!!!

It's not up to Erik, surely, to try to drum up interest?

wormrose
jon wrote:
wormrose wrote:

I am seeing what might be another bug. There are new comments listed on my home page that I have looked at (even more than once) but the new comments list still says they are unread. I am wondering if this is related to the "posting=tracking" issue.

edit: I just noticed they are all one-time main page polling questions.


This was a bug and I have applied a fix.  Visit the survey / poll page again (sorry) and it should clear any new comments.

Jon


Thanks jon, I'm sure you guys will figure it out. The auto-tracking feature would be good for vote games if a person joins a vote game even without making a comment. Often people forget to turn on tracking. Personally I don't mind the auto comment=tracking feature. I can always turn them off. Innocent

artfizz

If you have the first of these options switched off ...

EMAIL SETTINGS

  Also send alerts to my default contact@chess.com email address.
(In most cases, you will only receive 1 email per login.)

 It's OK to email me about Chess.com news and announcements.
(You will NEVER receive 3rd party email or non-Chess.com email.)

you should not be receiving emails.

gorgeous_vulture

You did save your settings after turning off auto tracking ? I only ask because I unchecked the box and forgot to save

TheGrobe
El_Senior wrote:

OK I'm confused. I turned off auto tracking last week and was still getting notifications.

Logged out and back in, didnt help.

I manually cleared all the "topics I am tracking" that the auto tracker signed me up for.

Sadly I'm still getting new comment notifications, and e-mail too which I'm ready to mark as spam. 

Staff: If it ain't broke, don't fix it! But if you insist, sure would have been nice had you sent a message to all members ahead of time explaining the upcoming change and how to revert back to the original settings (which worked just fine for me). 


Or better, providing the new functionality and notifying users so that they could opt in as opposed to forcing them to opt out.

DeepGreene

Certainly, if you're getting alerts for new comments on threads you are NOT tracking, that's a bug - please let us know what threads are still firing alerts at you and we'll look into it.

Of course, it's not practical to tell everyone everything we're planning ahead of time and then have a massive virtual committee meeting to decide whether or not it's a good idea.  Also, while you have to look at each case, it doesn't really make sense to build new features and always leave them turned off by default. That does seem like a waste of developers' time.

In this case, the change was small, the reaction has been mostly very positive, and there's a simple opt out.

DeepGreene
El_Senior wrote:
DeepGreene wrote:

Certainly, if you're getting alerts for new comments on threads you are NOT tracking, that's a bug - please let us know what threads are still firing alerts at you and we'll look into it.

Of course, it's not practical to tell everyone everything we're planning ahead of time and then have a massive virtual committee meeting to decide whether or not it's a good idea.  Also, while you have to look at each case, it doesn't really make sense to build new features and always leave them turned off by default. That does seem like a waste of developers' time.

In this case, the change was small, the reaction has been mostly very positive, and there's a simple opt out.


Respectfully disagree. In the past Erik and staff did an excellent job keeping members informed of proposed changes and sought input on same. His discretion of course to implement (or not) but I can tell you surprise changes, especially those that degrade the usability/user friendliness of the site such as this auto track thing are typically not well received.

If posts in this thread are your only measure, I would say response to this change was not positive. 

I would agree that USEFUL features should not be turned off by default, you may have missed my point: 1. annoying features should be turned off by default or 2. not added in the first place. 

Can't wait until the simple "opt out" is functional. 


We still solicit and value community input - as always, where we think it will help.  And we don't invest any effort in features that we think are annoying. Smile

The opt-out feature seems to be working well.  Again, please feel free to message me directly & identify any threads that A. you are not following and B. are still generating alerts. I'm sure we can get to the bottom of it.

TheGrobe

My preference is not to lose the signal in the noise, and given how much I tend to post the way it used to work gave me that ability.

That said, kudos to chess.com for at least recognizing the deficiency in not providing a global control over this setting and quickly correcting it.

ivandh

Maybe the reason you like it is because you know that resistance is futile.

electricpawn

Funny story. I was at work one day, and I receved a call from a woman who identified herself as an employee of the Canada Post. Actually she said Canada Pooost. I asked, "what city is you newspaper located in?" She said, "we're Canada Pooost!" I asked, "what's the circulation of your paper?"  She said, "we're Canada Pooost!" This went on for a while, and I hung up. I never did find out why she called. This is a true story. Funny becaause it's true.

wormrose
El_Senior wrote:

P.S. - I don't think it's an improvement. The only thing it improves is the number of views per page/ad revenue. What are the chances that's why it was rolled out in secret? 


I don't see any ads Cool  I see topics that I found interesting enough to post a comment and it surprises me that people would be annoyed that they are being made aware of subsequent comments posted in a forum they found interesting enough to post a comment in. If they don't have enough interest in the topic to have another look at it then why did they post a comment in the first place?

ivandh
electricpawn wrote:

Funny story. I was at work one day, and I receved a call from a woman who identified herself as an employee of the Canada Post. Actually she said Canada Pooost. I asked, "what city is you newspaper located in?" She said, "we're Canada Pooost!" I asked, "what's the circulation of your paper?"  She said, "we're Canada Pooost!" This went on for a while, and I hung up. I never did find out why she called. This is a true story. Funny becaause it's true.


For one thing, Canada Post is a shipping company. But who knows what Canada Pooost is.

Erik2

I got this thing too

electricpawn
ivandh wrote:
electricpawn wrote:

Funny story. I was at work one day, and I receved a call from a woman who identified herself as an employee of the Canada Post. Actually she said Canada Pooost. I asked, "what city is you newspaper located in?" She said, "we're Canada Pooost!" I asked, "what's the circulation of your paper?"  She said, "we're Canada Pooost!" This went on for a while, and I hung up. I never did find out why she called. This is a true story. Funny becaause it's true.


For one thing, Canada Post is a shipping company. But who knows what Canada Pooost is.


You seem uncharacteristically earnest, Ivan. Strong feelings about Canada Pooost?

ivandh

Alright... I hoped no one would ask, but I did some "modeling" for the Canada Pooost once under the name of Will Packer.

electricpawn
ivandh wrote:

Alright... I hoped no one would ask, but I did some "modeling" for the Canada Pooost once under the name of Will Packer.


lol! I was Miles Long!

TheGrobe

I thought that was a Bounty commercial.

artfizz
paul211 wrote:

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2. I did not read anywhere that Erik was excited about reaching the 3 million members. Today February 20Tth, 2011, the members are at 2,991, 872 and at this rate I predict that the 3 million mark will be reached in 2 days from today on February 22, 2011.

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artfizz wrote:

Most of the excitement about reaching the 1 millionth and the 2 millionth marks were generated by ordinary users in the forums e.g. 

When Will The 2,000,000th Member Join?

Who Will Be The 1,100,000th Member?

Chess.com's Millionth Member!!!

The 2 Millionth person

Chess.com's Millionth Member!!!

It's not up to Erik, surely, to try to drum up interest?


3,000,000+ members! Woohoo!

Frankdawg
kohai wrote:

It is a new feature.

When you post to content, you will auto track it.  It means you are involved in the discussion.  If you no longer want to track, scroll down to the comment box and un-check "Tracking".  If you do post another comment, you will once again auto track.


 

Is there any way to disable all tracked topics or turn off autotracking?

DeepGreene
Frankdawg wrote:
kohai wrote:

It is a new feature.

When you post to content, you will auto track it.  It means you are involved in the discussion.  If you no longer want to track, scroll down to the comment box and un-check "Tracking".  If you do post another comment, you will once again auto track.


 

Is there any way to disable all tracked topics or turn off autotracking?


Yes, indeed.

http://www.chess.com/home/alerts.html - 4th check-box down.