Has "No Vacation" Reached A Tipping Point?
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ozzie_c_cobblepot
Sep 28, 2011
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#21
Easy. Turn-based is serious chess. For me, when I'm being really serious about one of those games, I'll look up the position in my chessbase, here in games explorer, and sometimes other online DBs as well. It's often the case for me that I have out-of-town visitors (family) visiting, and I don't have a structured schedule where I can do all that research. But 1 0 bullet is not serious. At the end of the day, I might have 15 or 20 minutes, and I have no problem logging in for some bullet. There are other scenarios, but the common theme is that turn-based is serious and live is not.
Sep 28, 2011
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#23
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
I think that Erik has done a fabulous job of creating this website, and vacation time is one of the core attributes of it. When no vacation tournaments first came out, I created one (1). This was my first and only experience as a TD (2). It had 32% of games time out, and that was at 3 days per move. Does anybody have data on timeout percentages in 1 day/move no vacation tournaments?
I don't - since I don't join NVTs. (In fact, I just created a No 'No Vacation' tourney smallish-crowd-rated-1500-or-so-no-particular-hurry).
But it sounds like NVTs increase your chances : last one to go on vacation wins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl4h4-RLoBg&NR=1
Sep 28, 2011
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#24
They really do change the entire dynamic of the competition. It sounds bizarre to some, but if your #1 goal is to win a game, then analyzing all of the rules, both on the board and off, must be done.
IMDeviate wrote:
... For people who are too dense to figure this out chess.com does offer no vacation tournaments. ICCF does not. ...
People, get a clue about time controls!
Indeed. Here's a clue.
Once upon a time, (perhaps still) correspondence play could be done under cumulative time control. You had a certain amount of time for a certain number of moves. Take extra time now, you must move faster later. Move quickly now, make time for vacation later.
There is no cumulative time control for CC games at chess.com at this time. Time control renews for every move. This is a HUGE restriction, and can unfairly skew time control in games that cross time zones. I, and others in similar situations, would simply stop playing CC here if vacation was eliminated. But if vacation was replaced by cumulative time controls, I would be happy with that because it leaves time management entirely in my hands.
Sep 29, 2011
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#26
1. Chess.com should have the minor addition of a way to find "Vacation Acceptable" tournaments. There are 344 tournaments, so there's enough room for many types.
2. I have a day job. I travel on business, and often during that travel I'm putting in 10-12 hour days and having a business dinner at night. The chess.com phone application worked on my Blackberry Curve, but doesn't work on my new Blackberry Bold, for whatever reason. Sometimes, I need sleep more than I need chess moves. Resigning or timing out an ongoing game is unfair to my opponent, IMO.
3. This isn't the only site that allows vacation. ChessWorld also does (and,interestingly, allows you to make moves while on vacation, which chess.com does not. You would think that would be better, but it's actually pretty irritating.)
4. "There is no cumulative time control for CC games at chess.com at this time"
Another good idea. I won't join a 1 day time control tournament (with or without vacation time) but I'd join a 25 move in 30 days tournament.
Sep 29, 2011
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#27
Isn't it interesting how players who favor vacations never start forums in which they whine about non-vacation events?
Sep 30, 2011
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#29
The other possible time controls would be great. But without knowing more about how they've structured the code and what their architecture is like, it could be a huge undertaking.
You just have to wait for live chess tournaments. That will solve everything. ;-)
