A Bust to the Sicilian Defense

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ChessBoy513

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PolarPhoenix
staples13 wrote:

No not stockfish, that’s boring. Find a GM willing to try to defend the Sicilian, and I’d be glad to play them

Your rating is only 0.1% of your ego

staples13
PolarPhoenix wrote:
staples13 wrote:

No not stockfish, that’s boring. Find a GM willing to try to defend the Sicilian, and I’d be glad to play them

Your rating is only 0.1% of your ego

All I said was that I would play a GM using the Alapin if someone set it up. There’s nothing egotistical about that statement 

ChessProMasterGZ

You think getting a GM to play you is that easy? Play Stockfish to prove that the Alapin is good 

Tja_05

staples13 wrote:

3 minute or 5 minute blitz. Those are my terms you may take it or leave it

Sure anytime.

Tja_05

Just tell me whenever you're ready

ChessBoy513
HolographWars님이 썼습니다:
ChessBoy513 wrote:
staples13님이 썼습니다:
ChessBoy513 wrote:
staples13님이 썼습니다:

No not stockfish, that’s boring. Find a GM willing to try to defend the Sicilian, and I’d be glad to play them

You're just scared to play Stockfish LEVEL 10.

So just to clarify you  think an engine can successfully defend the Sicilian against me but not a GM?

Just challenge @Stockfish right now rated 3 min blitz. If you don't it means Sicilian isn't refuted.

@Stockfish is being challenged.

I don't see your game.

ChessBoy513

You neither @staples13

staples13

Here’s my most recent 1 minute no increment game. Black foolishly tried the Sicilian and as always white’s superior development and center control led to an unstoppable attack on the black king. 

kindaspongey
staples13 wrote:

… [1 e4 c5 2 c3 Nc6] … Here’s my most recent 1 minute no increment game. Black foolishly tried the Sicilian and as always white’s superior development and center control led to an unstoppable attack on the black king. 

"... d5 and nf6 do provide much stiffer resistance than any of black's other responses. ..." - staples13 (August 27, 2018)

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=2

dpnorman

2. c3 is just a move, probably a little harmless theoretically as black has multiple options which come close to objective equality, but it's just a game, and there's nothing wrong with someone who plays it. Someone else on this site, I think it was Alex Richter maybe, made the point that after 1. e4 c5, 2. c3 is funny in the sense that it more-or-less cancels out the idea of black's previous move and reinstates the exact same threat which existed after white's previous move. This isn't to argue that there's anything special about the c3 Sicilian...

And if there's a true advantage for white vs the Sicilian it lies in the Open Sicilians or the Bb5 sidelines, where of course the real debates are had

ChessProMasterGZ
staples13 wrote:

Here’s my most recent 1 minute no increment game. Black foolishly tried the Sicilian and as always white’s superior development and center control led to an unstoppable attack on the black king. 

Are you serious?! It’s bullet! Why are you taking you best bullet games to counter our rapid games???

HolographWars

!!!

Stockfish doesn't play c5 against e4, only 1...e5.

It must realize that against c5 White can play c3 and get a good advantage.

staples13
HolographWars wrote:

!!!

Stockfish doesn't play c5 against e4, only 1...e5.

It must realize that against c5 White can play c3 and get a good advantage.

Great post. Very enlightening. Thank you for this insight 

staples13
ChessProMasterGZ wrote:
staples13 wrote:

Here’s my most recent 1 minute no increment game. Black foolishly tried the Sicilian and as always white’s superior development and center control led to an unstoppable attack on the black king. 

Are you serious?! It’s bullet! Why are you taking you best bullet games to counter our rapid games???

I only play blitz and bullet so that’s all I can post. I’d be very willing to post my rapid games if I played any, which I don’t 

dpnorman
ChessProMasterGZ wrote:
staples13 wrote:

Here’s my most recent 1 minute no increment game. Black foolishly tried the Sicilian and as always white’s superior development and center control led to an unstoppable attack on the black king. 

Are you serious?! It’s bullet! Why are you taking you best bullet games to counter our rapid games???

Lol this is the chess.com forums, and the openings board to be exact. If silly stuff like this surprises you then you must be new here tongue.png

staples13
dpnorman wrote:

2. c3 is just a move, probably a little harmless theoretically as black has multiple options which come close to objective equality, but it's just a game, and there's nothing wrong with someone who plays it. Someone else on this site, I think it was Alex Richter maybe, made the point that after 1. e4 c5, 2. c3 is funny in the sense that it more-or-less cancels out the idea of black's previous move and reinstates the exact same threat which existed after white's previous move. This isn't to argue that there's anything special about the c3 Sicilian...

And if there's a true advantage for white vs the Sicilian it lies in the Open Sicilians or the Bb5 sidelines, where of course the real debates are had

Interesting, but mostly inaccurate.

I said it in the original post and I’ll say it again here. The move c5 violates every opening principle. It fails to develop a piece, fails to put a pawn in the center and fails to open a bishop for development. Now the only reason anyone ever played c5 is that in order for white to open the position up and take advantage of his superior development and center control he must trade his d pawn for blacks c pawn. This small amount of compensation is enough for black to hold. By playing 2.c3!!! White does not allow this exchange, . Black then has no answer to white’s superior development and center control, which will ultimately decide the game. 

ChessProMasterGZ

Can we just make peace here? The openings are all playable. 

dpnorman
staples13 wrote:
dpnorman wrote:

2. c3 is just a move, probably a little harmless theoretically as black has multiple options which come close to objective equality, but it's just a game, and there's nothing wrong with someone who plays it. Someone else on this site, I think it was Alex Richter maybe, made the point that after 1. e4 c5, 2. c3 is funny in the sense that it more-or-less cancels out the idea of black's previous move and reinstates the exact same threat which existed after white's previous move. This isn't to argue that there's anything special about the c3 Sicilian...

And if there's a true advantage for white vs the Sicilian it lies in the Open Sicilians or the Bb5 sidelines, where of course the real debates are had

Interesting, but mostly inaccurate.

I said it in the original post and I’ll say it again here. The move c5 violates every opening principle. It fails to develop a piece, fails to put a pawn in the center and fails to open a bishop for development. Now the only reason anyone ever played c5 is that in order for white to open the position up and take advantage of his superior development and center control he must trade his d pawn for blacks c pawn. This small amount of compensation is enough for black to hold. By playing 2.c3!!! White does not allow this exchange, . Black then has no answer to white’s superior development and center control, which will ultimately decide the game. 

Lol I actually like 2. c3 (although I guess not as much as you) and this is a good troll. Keep it up, this sort of thing is why I read the forums XD

ChessProMasterGZ

Actually, play the Alapin against @JustARandomPatzer and I will see how it goes.