A Bust to the Sicilian Defense

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Look, people, this whole argument is silly. If the Alapin or any other anti-Sicilian was as effective as claimed, every GM in the world would know and would never play 1...c5 in response to 1.e4, for fear of meeting 2.c3 or whatever.

Yet MVL (2775), as black, defeated Danov (2700) in the Sicilian (closed) in Paris this year. Why would MVL play the Sicilian against a super GM if he knew it was busted? And how could he win?

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Reuben_Sammitch wrote:

Look, people, this whole argument is silly. If the Alapin or any other anti-Sicilian was as effective as claimed, every GM in the world would know and would never play 1...c5 in response to 1.e4, for fear of meeting 2.c3 or whatever.

Yet MVL (2775), as black, defeated Danov (2700) in the Sicilian (closed) in Paris this year. Why would MVL play the Sicilian against a super GM if he knew it was busted? And how could he win?

As staples says...

(insert his quote here)

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HolographWars wrote:
Reuben_Sammitch wrote:

Look, people, this whole argument is silly. If the Alapin or any other anti-Sicilian was as effective as claimed, every GM in the world would know and would never play 1...c5 in response to 1.e4, for fear of meeting 2.c3 or whatever.

Yet MVL (2775), as black, defeated Danov (2700) in the Sicilian (closed) in Paris this year. Why would MVL play the Sicilian against a super GM if he knew it was busted? And how could he win?

As staples says...

(insert his quote here)

What proves staples facts even more is now, he has ChessBoy513 and his 1253 rating backing up his claims.  Them there is some facts!

I mean who are you going to trust in al of this.  Staples and chessboi, or 2700 GM's?

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It appears there are still a few holdouts who refuse to believe the Sicilian is busted despite the overwhelming evidence. 

Would you agree that the Sicilian is a poor opening and that the Alapin gives white a significant advantage that may or may not be winning?

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staples13 wrote:

It appears there are still a few holdouts who refuse to believe the Sicilian is busted despite the overwhelming evidence. 

Would you agree that the Sicilian is a poor opening and that the Alapin gives white a significant advantage that may or may not be winning?

Considering the few times i have faced that abortion of an opening in OTB tournaments and never lost.  I gonna go out on a limb and say the Sicilian is safe.

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IMBacon님이 썼습니다:
HolographWars wrote:
Reuben_Sammitch wrote:

Look, people, this whole argument is silly. If the Alapin or any other anti-Sicilian was as effective as claimed, every GM in the world would know and would never play 1...c5 in response to 1.e4, for fear of meeting 2.c3 or whatever.

Yet MVL (2775), as black, defeated Danov (2700) in the Sicilian (closed) in Paris this year. Why would MVL play the Sicilian against a super GM if he knew it was busted? And how could he win?

As staples says...

(insert his quote here)

What proves staples facts even more is now, he has ChessBoy513 and his 1253 rating backing up his claims.  Them there is some facts!

I mean who are you going to trust in al of this.  Staples and chessboi, or 2700 GM's?

You mean my record with c5 and the ongoing game against @viruschidai.

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ChessBoy513 wrote:
IMBacon님이 썼습니다:
HolographWars wrote:
Reuben_Sammitch wrote:

Look, people, this whole argument is silly. If the Alapin or any other anti-Sicilian was as effective as claimed, every GM in the world would know and would never play 1...c5 in response to 1.e4, for fear of meeting 2.c3 or whatever.

Yet MVL (2775), as black, defeated Danov (2700) in the Sicilian (closed) in Paris this year. Why would MVL play the Sicilian against a super GM if he knew it was busted? And how could he win?

As staples says...

(insert his quote here)

What proves staples facts even more is now, he has ChessBoy513 and his 1253 rating backing up his claims.  Them there is some facts!

I mean who are you going to trust in al of this.  Staples and chessboi, or 2700 GM's?

You mean my record with c5 and the ongoing game against @viruschidai.

I mean who are you going to trust in al of this. Staples and chessboi, or 2700 GM's?

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Well despite having hardly played in months my trusty Alapin didn’t let me down. Here’s my most recent game a 1 minute no increment bucket game. Look at the huge advantage white gets out of the opening. Like all Alapin games black was lost before the middlegame even started

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Maybe not all...

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HolographWars wrote:
ChessProMasterGZ wrote:

Dude, there is no bust to the Sicilian! Magnus Carlsen plays the Sicilian a lot!

Classic fallacy.

His opponents not only refuse to play anti Sicilians, but are also much weaker.

wow, so you discovered an awesome super-cool defense that GMs dont know?

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staples13 wrote:

It appears there are still a few holdouts who refuse to believe the Sicilian is busted despite the overwhelming evidence. 

Would you agree that the Sicilian is a poor opening and that the Alapin gives white a significant advantage that may or may not be winning?

No, because if you ask any GM, they will say No,

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@staples13

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no

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hes back

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staples13 wrote:

Well despite having hardly played in months my trusty Alapin didn’t let me down. Here’s my most recent game a 1 minute no increment bucket game. Look at the huge advantage white gets out of the opening. Like all Alapin games black was lost before the middlegame even started

Your opponent did not play d5

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Reuben_Sammitch wrote:

Maybe not all...

Nice!

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HolographWars wrote:
Reuben_Sammitch wrote:

Look, people, this whole argument is silly. If the Alapin or any other anti-Sicilian was as effective as claimed, every GM in the world would know and would never play 1...c5 in response to 1.e4, for fear of meeting 2.c3 or whatever.

Yet MVL (2775), as black, defeated Danov (2700) in the Sicilian (closed) in Paris this year. Why would MVL play the Sicilian against a super GM if he knew it was busted? And how could he win?

As staples says...

(insert his quote here)

How about this one?

"... Just because I’m a moron who frequently blunders winning positions in the 2. Nf6 line doesn’t change the fact that it’s winning" - staples13 (November 8, 2018)

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=33

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IMBacon wrote (~5 hours ago):

… staples ... now, he has ChessBoy513 … backing up his claims. …

"@staples13 and @holographwars

VS

@kindaspongey, @snacktime10101, @ChessBoy513, @ChessProMasterGZ, @pfren, etc.

You guys are outnumbered." - ChessBoy513 (~12 hours ago)

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=65

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staples13 wrote (~4 hours ago):

It appears there are still a few holdouts who refuse to believe the Sicilian is busted despite the overwhelming evidence. ...

"Objectively, the Alapin System is not that dangerous for Black. ..." - GM Mikhail Golubev (2017)

 

staples13 wrote (~3 hours ago): "... [1 e4 c5 2 c3 d6] … Here’s my most recent game a 1 minute no increment bucket game. Look at the huge advantage white gets out of the opening. …"

 

"... d5 and nf6 do provide much stiffer resistance than any of black's other responses. ..." - staples13 (August 27, 2018)

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=2

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HolographWars wrote:
robertjames_perez wrote:
 
This is highly unnoticed. This is the best way to fidht the Alapin Variation. Sadly this is less popular than many other moves. 

 

Because it gives White +0.7 on FishStock, unless I can’t read properly.

Oh, so you trust engines who can't even explain why white/black is better than black/white and why does it suggest something. And please, if you can or if the present technology van prove that Sicilian is busted, tell me. And what do you do next after 5...Bf5?