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A Bust to the Sicilian Defense
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staples13 wrote (August 29, 2018):
… [After 1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4,] Black ... can take the pawn on d5, which, as UzayAltay correctly noted earlier, is something black wants to avoid since it creates a dynamic IQP position, and wins white a developing tempo with Nc3 chasing the queen. White's lead in development typically proves to be the decisive factor in such a sharp position.
Here's another 3 minute no increment blitz game showing black cracking under the constant pressure from white's pieces. … 1.e4 c5 2.c3 d5 3.exd5 Qxd5 4.d4 cxd4?! { Inaccurate becuase it gives white too much play } 5.cxd4 Nc6 6.Nf3 Bg4 … Clearly black can not take on d4. ...
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=3
"... White is winning after 1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4 cxd4 5.cxd4 Nc6. ..." - staples13 (October 24, 2018)
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=26
"Yes in that line 6. Nf3 is still winning" - staples13 (October 24, 2018)
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=26
"In [1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c3 d5 4.exd5 Qxd5 5.d4 cxd4 6.cxd4 e5 7.Nc3 Bb4 8.Bd2 Bxc3 9.Bxc3 e4 10.Ne5 Nxe5 11.dxe5 Ne7] white was completely winning until he played 12. Qa4+ a pointless move that lost his advantage. Qe2 would've maintained the winning advantage" - staples13 (October 24, 2018)
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=26
"[After 1.e4 c5 2.c3 d5 3.exd5 Qxd5 4.d4 Nc6 5.Nf3 cxd4 6.cxd4 e5 7.Nc3 Bb4 8.Bd2 Bxc3 9.Bxc3 e4 10.Ne5 Nxe5 11.dxe5 Ne7 12.Qe2 O-O 13.Rd1 Qc6,] 14.Rd6! { this was the move white missed. } 14...Qc7 15.Qxe4 Bf5 16.Qd4 Nc6 17.Qc5 Rac8 18.Bb5 { white is up a pawn and his position is clear;y far superior }" - staples13 (November 8, 2018)
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=33
"Why would black play 14...Qc7? What if 14...Qa4 ...?" - littlesoldier123 (November 8, 2018)
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=33
Are we going to see staples13 identify a winning improvement for White?
staples13 wrote (August 29, 2018):
… After 2. d5 the game normally proceeds 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4. ... If the natural Nc6 is played white simply takes on c5 and black ... can sacrifice the pawn and not allow white to castle with Qxd1. ... In the Qxd1 line there is insufficient compensation for the loss of the pawn, ...
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=3
Game from November 9, 2018 post
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=34 :
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1606612
staples13 wrote (August 29, 2018):
... instead black's only logical option to try and protect the pawn on c4 with something like Nf6. Unfortunately this also loses as black eventually runs out of ways to to protect the pawn on c5. All white has to do is simply develop and continue to ratchet up the pressure on c5, and, as Kasparov learned in the game against Deep Blue shown in the original post, eventually white will play Be3, at which point black has no choice but to take on d4. As I already demonstrated earlier, and as Deep Blue demonstrated to Kasparov once black takes on d4 white's superior development, spatial advantage, and piece activity in the ensuing extremely sharp IQP game ultimately wins the game.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1070874
"... Up to [the point of 27. Qc5], the game was basically dead even. 27... d4?! (27... Qg5 28. g3 f4 29. Nd6 Qh5 30. Kg2 fxg3 31. fxg3 Qg6 32. Rc3 d4 33. Rf3 f6 34. Qf5 Qxf5 35. Rxf5 d3 36. Rd5 Ra8
White has the better pawn structure here, but the game is roughly even.) ... [With 32...Re8??,] Kasparov demonstrates that he is human. He was in a slightly worse position due to some minor inaccuracies in the few moves prior, but this is a blunder. (32... Rg5 33. Qxf7 Qxf7 34. Rxf7 Rd5 35. Kf1 Nc1
White is still better, but there is still a lot of work to do here.) 33. Nd6 Of course, even with Deep Blue being significantly weaker than today's engines, it still found these tactics (though, likely did not find the mate in 32 from here) ... 27 moves before he makes an inaccuracy that gives white any sort of advantage - and you think that refutes the opening? ..." - BobbyTalparov (August 29, 2019)
"... I disagree that Kasparov is better until move 27. His knight is put in a brutal pin on move 17 that he can never break without exposing his king and in fact his kingside paw structure does get completely destroyed on move 18. …" - staples13 (August 29, 2018)
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=3
"... The game was dead even until Kasparov made a mistake on move 27. He needed to play Qg5 to maintain the balance, and instead played d4, which gave white a strong initiative. Then he blundered completely on move 32 (which he later admitted was partly due to fatigue and partly due to frustration that he was in a worse position of his own making). And opening up the g-file is double-edged. Yes, black loses part of his pawn shield; however, his king will tuck in nicely on h8 and the rook moves over to the g-file staring at white's king. That is why 27...Qg5 was necessary (it was a mate threat). …" - BobbyTalparov
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=5
Sep 18, 2019
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The fact that you say that ...d5 is the most played move while it isn't in the explorer just proves that you're doing something wrong
Sep 18, 2019
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#1328
staples13 wrote:
Here's my game with Stockfish. It wasn't able to equalize against my Alapin and its position is probably lost.
staples13 wrote:
Admittedly I couldn’t figure out how to download stockfish so I had to guess as to what moves stockfish would have played, but I think I probably got it right
You can't "guess" stockfish's moves. This is ridiculous.
The fact that one 2775+ Player (MVL), plays the Sicilian all the time and that Carlsen recently played it a lot, while gaining incredible results might indicate that the Sicilian is not dead yet. Also, only few 2750s try the Alapin for white against it. All of these people who dedicate their life to chess have not found anything that refutes the opening and it might be for
a reason.
Sep 18, 2019
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#1332
Tal125555 wrote:
The fact that you say that ...d5 is the most played move while it isn't in the explorer just proves that you're doing something wrong
20,225> 18,874. Have a nice day!
its funny how almost everyone on staples side gave up already
Sep 19, 2019
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#1334
staples13 wrote:
Tal125555 wrote:
The fact that you say that ...d5 is the most played move while it isn't in the explorer just proves that you're doing something wrong
20,225> 18,874. Have a nice day!
Thanks I do know my basic maths. However, ....d5 and ....Nf6 are played almost the same and so they both are main lines. You can't say ....d5 is the main line. Also white has worst results against the ....Nf6 variation. And by the way, it's not clear which is played the most. The chessbase database (which seems to be the one on which the best players prepare and which does look better then 365 chess) says that ...Nf6 is the most played. Anyway, it doesn't matter much. Most top GMs (except Ding) played Nf6 in this link here : Chessbase online
Play the moves e4 c5 c3 and tap on search board and look at what the high ratings (+2700) did.
Whatever. Also try providing a refutation to Nf6
The Alapin is not a bad variation, but it comes nowhere close to refuting the sicilian.
"I did provide a refutation for 2. Nf6 3.e5! And black is lost" - staples13 (~37 minutes ago)
kindaspongey wrote (July 28, 2019):
staples13 wrote:
dawson_632 wrote:
… 1 e4 c5 2 c3 Nf6 3 e5 Nd5 4 Nf3 Nc6 5 Bc4 Nb6 6 Bb3 g6 ...
Brilliant game. Thanks for contributing
How does White reply to 6...c4 ?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=53
staples13님이 썼습니다:
I did provide a refutation for 2. Nf6
3.e5! And black is lost
e6=
Sep 19, 2019
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#1338
ChessBoy513 wrote:
staples13님이 썼습니다:
I did provide a refutation for 2. Nf6
3.e5! And black is lost
e6=
4. exf6 1-0
ChessBoy513 wrote:
staples13님이 썼습니다:
I did provide a refutation for 2. Nf6
3.e5! And black is lost
e6=
(I think the intention is to refer to 1 e4 c5 2 c3 e6, rather than 1 e4 c5 2 c3 Nf6 3 e5 e6.)
staples13 wrote:
In my opinion the Sicilian Defense is busted. It loses by force.
The opening move of the Sicilian Defense violates just about every opening principle. It fails to develop a piece, fails to put a pawn in the center, and fails to open up a bishop for development. It allows white to immediately open up the center and to do so with greater development. The Sicilian Defense has nevertheless remained popular despite all of this for one reason and one reason only; in order for white to open up the center it comes at the cost of having to trade its D pawn for black's C pawn. This is why the ideal response to the Sicilian is the Alapin Variation 2. C3! It says to black no you can't have my center pawn. Now white is ahead in both development and control of the center , and black has absolutely no compensation.
You don't believe me? Look at the game explorer then. I have played 581 games here on chess.com using the Alapin. I have won 68% lost 26% and drawn the other 6%. That is a score of 71%. No other opening is capable of scoring 71%. But to prove all this let's look at some games. First, we have a 3 minute no increment blitz game I played. Look at the massive advantage white immediately gets both in piece development and in center control. Both are problems which stem from black's first move.
Here's another 3 minute no increment blitz game I played. Notice how easy white's development is and how black's position is already completely unplayable by move 10.
Finally, I'm sure you want to see a master level game so here we have Deep Blue vs. Kasparov (1996). For a little historical context this was the first match between them and Kasparov annihilated Deep Blue +3 -1=2. Deep Blue's lone victory came as you might guess playing the Alapin Variation. Kasparov faced a horrible position straight out of the opening and Deep Blue wasted no time converting it. Notice that the most powerful chess player of all time got destroyed playing against a computer much weaker than him.
After 2. C3 black is in my opinion lost. White refuses to allow black to exchange its c pawn for white's d pawn giving black no compensation for white's lead in development and center control, which ultimately always proves decisive in the end.
I'd like to close by saying that of course black can always play differently than in the games shown, in which case he merely loses differently.
Tell it to Garry Kasparov who was World Champion and highest rated Grandmaster for about 15 years while playing this opening.
You did not post one. Where did you post? Proof?
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