41% is pretty high, the mainline Ruy Lopez which you love doesn't even break 34%
Defences to the Parham Attack
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Jun 14, 2012
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#643
Sungolian wrote:
CHCL wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Parham destroying a 2506:
http://www.chess.com/games/view.html?id=289187
Parham defeating a master in 5 moves:
http://www.chess.com/games/view.html?id=198942
It's basically undefeatable.
Can you please stop using bad examples of chess for your points.
Funny, cuz in other threads Pfren does the exact same things. Like pull out the one game where Judit Polgar loses to a 2500 in a specific line or where Ivanchuk destroys a 2300 and says it's good for white/black/etc.
I am going to call scottrf's post sarcasm for the simple fact that niether of those were serious. Black in the first game was playing suicide chess. either that or really didn't care
in the second game that is just too embarassing. kind of like the following game
Jun 14, 2012
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#644
The_Gavinator wrote:
41% is pretty high, the mainline Ruy Lopez which you love doesn't even break 34%
dream on Mr Troll. Get your facts right for a start.
Or black couldn't keep up with the Parham, how hard is it for you to understand that?
Jun 14, 2012
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#646
The_Gavinator wrote:
Or black couldn't keep up with the Parham, how hard is it for you to understand that?
how hard is it for you to understand that you are a troll.
I apologize, I meant 35%, it doesn't break 35%, it's in the 34%'s, I tripped myself up:
Jun 14, 2012
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#648
between your 17 games sample while I've got 127,000+
misleading again trolls.
Yes the Parham is less common, although the percentages for the Parham are better.
Gavi's database = 6 wins white, 5 wins black, 6 draws
My database = 4 wins black 1 draw
Combined = 6 wins white 9 wins black 7 draws
Percentages = 27% 41% 32%
Well that seems much worse than the ruy lopez.
Some notes - drawing % is about the same. So much for Gavi's claim that ruy draws more than parham.
- White winning % is lower with parham than with ruy lopez.
- Black winning % is higher with parham than with lopez.
Also, even in your database alone black's win % is abnormally high. Players prefer to play for 2 results, win or draw, rather than for 3.
Jun 14, 2012
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#652
In the world of statistics, small sample size makes results unreliable.
Shepi what database are you talking about? And the Ruy wins less than the Parham.
The_Gavinator wrote:
Yes I just took a statistics class, although there is no other reliable data, so you must proceed with caution, that's the issue with the Parham, is there's a lack of games.
And shepi what database are you talking about? And the Ruy wins less than the Parham.
The one here :), although I have access to about 5 other ones, would you like me to combine them all?
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Everyone knows that the 365chess openings databases are littered with many irrelevant and poorly-played games. Like half the games on there will turn out to be like "New Jersey Aspberger's Chess League, Under Nine" or the like.
If we had a database of only professional and master games, I'm sure the Parham would be not only more prevalent, but would be shown to win in greater proportion than many may think.
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very small indeed Mr Troll.