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What is the best way to deal with

The 2 main moves are de and Nf3. After 4.ed Bb4, however, black gets a lot of play for the pawn, and 4.Nf3 ed gets rid of white's central pawns. Any ideas?

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I have not seen the idea of sacrificing the pawn with 5. ed Bb4 - it looks interesting.

I'm not sure why you are worried about 5. Nf3 de. It looks like you are ahead in development with an open center.

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It just seems that Nf3 de Bb4 looks good for black.

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5. Nf3 ed  6. Nd4 Bb4  7. Bd2 Qe5+  8. Qe2 and he almost has to trade queens, 8.... Qe2+ 9. Be2 and you are in great shape.

Taking the analysis a little farther. 9. ... Nf6 10. 0-0-0 0-0  11 Ndb5 Na6  12. Be3 and he is forced to give up the bishop pair to stop you from winning  a pawn. He can take on c3, or, if he moves the c pawn, you play Nd6 and take on c8.

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Thanks for the great analysis, splane!

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Further, in the dxe5 line:

1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qa5 4.d4 e5

5.dxe5 Bb4 6.Nf3 Bc3+ 7.bxc3 Qxc3+ 8.Bd2 seems not great for black, no?

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ozzie c cobblepot- wouldn't that give white 2 isolate pawns?