St. George's Supermodern Fortress

Bageftw: look here http://chessok.com/?page_id=352

Btw I'm far from insisting that black should absolutely play 3...a6 on 3.c4. The most popular 3rd move for white is 3.Nc3, at least 5 times more popular (and also stronger) than 3.c4. In this case 3...a6 takes its meaning immediately.

I don't see any reason to be stubbornly glued to modern defense when KID gives the best opportunities on c4.

can you show some games?

I just started to discover it, here's 1 game in progress

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=45229992

But, starting from now, I'm planning to make many games with this oppening.

Gentlemen and women,

During the course of this thread I see many players have re-discoverd the power st George opening.  Some times amusing to see some people calling it modern defence and an opening of the 21st centry which is bullocks.

please review this data :

Michael Basman (1987). Chess Openings. Crowood. ISBN 0-946284-74-1

You will see one famous game mentione between tony miles and karpov in 1980 .  after this particular book,  no material was produced in 30 odd years ,  it became "forgotten" has in the spirit of that day and age , chess guru's deemed it weak and wanting for a better lack of description theroff

Personally I have adapted this for the past season at our local chess club, and also during stat matches, and actually had pretty good results op to about 2100

which is also stated in the transcriptions that positive results beyond equality against stronger players are achieved around <2100 and lower

I would like to state this has helped me in better understanding some principals in games for black against e4. Practice as much as you can , and yes, you should have a psychological advantage over your opponent,  and time control advantages aswell .  it helps when in an even situation you have +30 minutes on your opponent in an middle-endgame

for the people who are still reluctant to play, or people who are looking for an edge to level the plainfield , this is the opening to review and study intensively.  I must agree with some people that this opening, in the main 3 variants requirs A LOT of studying and understanding to make it work

greetings

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Check_please: Thanx a lot for the reference! Tiger's book is also a good source to discover this opening.

it's a great alternative for black against white's 1. e4, tony miles won against karpov with this opening, it somehow gives black a tempo while waiting for white to  decide his plan on the center, and it somehow confuses the opponent because it can be transposed into a sicilian or pirc or even a king's indian, love this opening

I see the st. george opening being tossed around alot with only one mention with basman! g6 and d6 are not in the st george! in basmans book, "the new st. george" there is not a single instance of g6 being played unless theres a qh5+ of course. the st george is a6 or e6 in response to e4, or b5 to d4. theres no g6 in the st george, just in the modern

Funny, I call it Larry's HighTech Stealth Bomber.

LOL!

It's an old great funny thread too. Btw it's my most used black's opening (49 games here) with a good score (57% of wins).

I play this position after both 1.e4 a6 and 1.d4 b5.  People see that first move and seem to forget the basics.  I play this and end up putting my pawns and pieces in almost the same position as the sicilian najdor.  Sometimes I decide to play Nc6 and sometimes I decide to play d5.  The difference between 1.e4 a6 and a sicilian is that white should be able to get two central pawns.  The upside is your opponent frequently throws out everything he/she knows about chess after 1.a6 and makes bad moves.  I don't play it all the time, but I can't resist it every now and then.  

Great!

So here's how it looked after 10 moves in Petrosian v Spassky.  Spassky as black declined a draw and then lost.

Just stopping by to say this is a good thread. I came across it last week. I decided to try the pawn formation shown in the first post when I was chosen to play as black. The beginning of the game went okay. Unfortunately, I blundered a bishop near the end. My opponent had lots of pawns on their way to my side anyways so I resigned. Very challenging game though.

https://www.chess.com/daily/game/163836482

Hey, thanks for your message! Speaking of the opening, your opponent knight's attack 4. Ng5?! is an inaccuracy. The best reply is 4...c5! and U obtain the Hyperaccelerated Dragodorf.

@Yigor: Thanks for the advice. I'll try the Hyperaccelerated Dragondorf if it happens again. The early knight attack kept me on my toes. I thought that protecting f7 was a good idea. My opponent was about to get his queen into the game. I could have pushed the pawn to g6 too but I've had players sacrifice a piece so that my King can't castle and I was worried about that with the white knight.

 Just try playing it against some stronger players and see what happens. In my experience, fwiw, there's always a way to disrupt any system opening.

Yeah, I got it but the early queen attack is not a real threat and, actually, bad for white.

and black has an advantage.

Sure that even the best opening will not save U vs a substantially stronger player during the middlegame and the endgame.