which one is a good opening to learn against sicilian defence first as white ??

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If you are not so experienced against the Sicilian, a GM coach I once had told me to start with 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 d6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Qxd4. It is true you immediately face 4..Nc6 and then learn the basic position after 5 Bb5 Bd7 6 Bxc6 Bxc6 7 Nc3. Why did he recommend this line? First it takes the "fire" out of black's counterattack, and stresses the essential pawn structure, where white has a spatial advantage. Second, white develops his pieces easily and with aggressive intent, as in the line 7..Nf6 8 Bg5 e6 9 000. By practicing this line you get a feeling for the basic plans--control center, K side pawn roll, open a file on black's K, then focus attack on K--and applies to other, more complicated Sicilian lines you can learn later. You can reference back to this tabiya by considering this or that piece exchange.

...  and what did he recommend if black plays 2 ... Nc6? Go straight ahead with 3. Bb5?

Play 2.Nf3

Against 2...d6 play 3.c3

Against 2...Nc6 play 3.Bb5

Against 2...e6 play 3.g3

Against 2...g6 play 3.c3

Against 2...Nf6 play 3.e5 Nd5 4.g3

Against 2...a6 play 3.c3

I find this hilarous. In a previous forum to this one. I said I believed the Alapin was going to die out in favor of the Delayed Alapin.

An here you are a National Master giving advice on playing the Delayed Alapin instead of the regular Alapin.

HAHAHAHAHA Now that is amusing and very coincidential to say the least.

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Great post NM JMB2010 , I agree with you. A beginner player like the OP should first learn all this opening ideas in the Sicilian before he proceed to the complex open Sicilian. Don't pay attention to X player, it's a useless engine Troll that doesn't know what is talking about. Forgive him.

Against 2..Nc6 I recommend you start with 3 Nc3, a line used by Kasparov on occasion.  The idea is to develop your pieces ( 4 Bc4 5 0-0) and delay the decision to push the d pawn one or two squares, after black has commited to a fianchetto the KB (dragon formation) or to e7.  The 3 Bb5 Rossolimo lines are more strategically complicated--you have to be comfortable with center blockade strategy a la Nimzovich.  Here is a Kasparov example in the 3 Nc3 "Chameleon" line:

 

The c3 Sicilian or Alapin is a great choice for anybody, and works well for beginners too because you get an open game while at the same time cutting down on a bunch of theory.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAAH

I can't stop laughing. Oh it hurts on the inside. I am laughing so hard right now.

Am I the only one who noticed what has happen here.

Sometimes I wonder what other people read.

I have blocked you Bg5. Please stop saying my name.

You are a lost soul!

You are in another world. I have no idea what your statement has to do with what I said on post number 6.

You have lost your compass.

X player@

Of course , you changed your original post! This is not what was written in first place. You accused a NM why he sudjested the delayed Alapin to a beginner and now you switched that your problem is only the comparison with the simple one.

Everyone knows that you are a coward who recall statements and find excuses to cover your chess mythology.

You know what X Player, I still don't like your post! Even if you changed it, you can't hide your complexism against titled players, you can't hide your arrogance. Instead of disagree as a regural and normal human , you are trying to humiliate someone who has prove OTB that knows more than YOU X PLAYER and your Stockfish engine that so proudly you are referring to every time you speak for chess.

Come on X Player show to us the refutation of the simple Alapin. Give us the Stockfish theory about the opening and the Databases conclusion. TROLL your self one more time.

I don't know if I lost my compass X PLAYER and I don't care. There are more important things in life to guide our way than a compass, things that you don't posses and you will never find. I will never BLOCK YOU X player, I don't afraid for my statements either for my way of speech. I am open for criticism from anybody and I feel secure. How about you?

The sicilian structure is a very important part of chess. I think understanding such a dynamic structure is part of every player's development. Even at your level, 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 - the open sicilian is good. Yes, its quite hard and there's alot to learn and you will lose alot in the beginning. But looking at master's games and learning from your mistakes can help alot.

But if you are lazy and just want a system to use against alot of line and not have to book up, just play the Kings Indian Attack set up.

thanks a lot for reply. I will take all of your edvices into accaunt

The repertoire suggested by JMB2010 makes a lot of sense, so it's quite natural that X-PATZER-X does not approve it.

Don't listen to XplayerJX he plays 3.d3 Sicilians.

 

You should play 2.Bc4 Sicilians - its simple, develops pieces and piss off alot of players who start with 1...c5

2.c3 Sicilian sucks - it does not develop pieces nor contribute towards castling so you should only play it if you kow how to play the Sicilian down a tempo.

Open Sicilians and Canal-Sokolsky Sicilians are also good alternative

If you don't want to spend long hours learning variations, a good idea is to play 2.c3. I have a lot of experience in this variation. All you need to know, are the typical plans, and how to play with the isolated pawn. The posisitions are incredibly dynamic. I consider this as a good choice.

Check out my profile. I offer chess lessons. Reasonable prices. 

All the best !

Michał W

Avenger09, you just cannot go wrong with the Bobby Fischer lines!!! He used the Kings Indian Attack to reply against the Sicilian, French, and Caro-kan. He championed the Sozin attack which you may find in videos on you tube as the Bobby Fischer attack... All and I mean all the great GM's seem to get there from Bob's games!!! KIA is flexible for and safe for white in general the structure and set up saves time... Spasky seemed to like the lines of the Closed Sicilian for white with the Ng-k2 lines delayed to stay flexible and unleash an mean attack after Fischer dropped out of pro chess. I may be wrong on the history; however, it works now and did so before the engines!!!

MAW'ms!!

Be aware CM Jadeit! There is a strong Super GM in the forums who's not kidding talking about the 2.c3 Sicilian. He almost hold the rights to speak for it and all the Novelties have been played its from his contribution to the theory of this opening. Please respect his majesty and leave this exclusive for him.

mwilliams273 wrote:

Avenger09, you just cannot go wrong with the Bobby Fischer lines!!! He used the Kings Indian Attack to reply against the Sicilian, French, and Caro-kan. He championed the Sozin attack which you may find in videos on you tube as the Bobby Fischer attack... All and I mean all the great GM's seem to get there from Bob's games!!! KIA is flexible for and safe for white in general the structure and set up saves time... Spasky seemed to like the lines of the Closed Sicilian for white with the Ng-k2 lines delayed to stay flexible and unleash an mean attack after Fischer dropped out of pro chess. I may be wrong on the history; however, it works now and did so before the engines!!!

MAW'ms!!

Of course you can go wrong- horribly wrong... no matter if you have the impression you can immitate Fischer's play, even remotely, or not.

JMB's suggestion looks good, but I would suggest two additional lines: 1. e4 c5 2.Nf3 g6 3.h4!? and also the early b3 system.

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Bg5 I have never changed my post.

You have read the same post both times and said the same stupid remarks twice now.

I was never critizing NM JMB2010 repertoire.

I was laughing because in a post previous to this one. I thought the Alapin was going to die off in favor of the Delayed Alapin.

I found it funny that I came to this post and a National master was suggesting to play the Delayed Alapin instead of the Alapin.

I think alot of Alapin players have began switching over to the Delayed Alapin.

If you believe I changed my post than prove it. Where is your proof?

You have no proof like always. You are a fool. A fool full of conjecture.

On chess.com I have played against more Delayed Alapin's lately than the regular Alapins.