Your favorite opening trap

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jerry2468
mjbickley wrote:

Why god would you want to play Ng4 ._.

A much sounder "trap" comes from the ruy exchange.  Although honestly I don't know why you wouldn't want to play f6.


That actually works after P takes then hxg and Q goes to the open file and bang

jerry2468
tigergutt wrote:

ive had those alot

 

 

 


lolz

Eebster
mjbickley wrote:

Why god would you want to play Ng4 ._.

A much sounder "trap" comes from the ruy exchange.  Although honestly I don't know why you wouldn't want to play f6.


1. Very few people play the Ruy Lopez Exchange.

2. There's no way you can say the fishing pole is "unsound." Nobody really knows yet.

thesexyknight

The Berlin Defense: Fishing Pole Variation. A popular trap. There are also a few out of the Baltic defense that can force a draw, which is good for playing someone significantly higher rated than yourself.

fgm351

Obviously the Fried Liver

Eebster

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(I posted this comment on the wrong thread, then deleted it, but . . . there is no way to completely remove the comment? That's kind of annoying.)

Musikamole

 As the OP, I should have checked this thread. Wow! I seen a ton of posted traps. Thanks!

Remember - The idea I had in mind was to explore traps - not for those long chess games - but for those blitz games where it's much easier to get fooled! Cool

Sorbis
Tnk64ChessCourse
Sorbis wrote:

That is like, the best trap ever, in my favourite opening!

Musikamole

In blitz, I almost never see White push the d4 pawn and go for the exchange, ...cxd4 Nxd4. White usually goes for an early queen or bishop move, looking for a quick mate.

I'd love to see some opening Sicilian traps that Black can use against White.

Here's a bishop trap I found. Although I see 1.e4 c5 2.Bc4 more often, I hope this example that I found might get the wheels turning on those who have some clever Sicilian traps. Cool



Here's one more example in the Sicilian where White loses a knight.

Musikamole

This series of knight attacks in the Sicilian can really put the hurt on Black. Now, Black needs to make one bad mistake for all of this to happen - maybe in a fast blitz game? Again, I'd love to see any Sicilian Opening traps that are stronger than mine. Smile


robtaussig
Sorbis wrote:

Black's Nxf2 is unsound, so I don't really call that a trap (imo, the setup of a good trap does not require an unsound move, but instead lured into what appears to be a good move). I'm assuming black takes f2 planning on fried livering back white's knight? Well, the knight can retreat to block the check and is protected by the pawn. So black just sacrificed a minor piece for a pawn (white can move his rook to f1, then king to g1 and pretty much be in good position).

robtaussig
Musikamole wrote:

This series of knight attacks in the Sicilian can really put the hurt on Black. Now, Black needs to make one bad mistake for all of this to happen - maybe in a fast blitz game? Again, I'd love to see any Sicilian Opening traps that are stronger than mine.



Very nice trap indeed.

Tnk64ChessCourse

Here's a good one that comes from the two knights variation of the Caro-Kann

eXecute

I kind of like this variation, but with all opening traps etc, there are ways out and it's hard to remember everything.
Sorbis
gramarnazi wrote:
Sorbis wrote:

Black's Nxf2 is unsound, so I don't really call that a trap (imo, the setup of a good trap does not require an unsound move, but instead lured into what appears to be a good move). I'm assuming black takes f2 planning on fried livering back white's knight? Well, the knight can retreat to block the check and is protected by the pawn. So black just sacrificed a minor piece for a pawn (white can move his rook to f1, then king to g1 and pretty much be in good position).


Can you show me, i dont really see what you mean. If Kxf2, doesnt Nxe5 win a pawn for black? And no, i was not talking about any fried liver tactic, just a simple capture on e5. Can you show me how white would win back the pawn in this position?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Nxf2 still loses a piece but that is only becouse of my trap (as far as i know).

Eebster
Sorbis wrote:
gramarnazi wrote:
Sorbis wrote:

Black's Nxf2 is unsound, so I don't really call that a trap (imo, the setup of a good trap does not require an unsound move, but instead lured into what appears to be a good move). I'm assuming black takes f2 planning on fried livering back white's knight? Well, the knight can retreat to block the check and is protected by the pawn. So black just sacrificed a minor piece for a pawn (white can move his rook to f1, then king to g1 and pretty much be in good position).


Can you show me, i dont really see what you mean. If Kxf2, doesnt Nxe5 win a pawn for black? And no, i was not talking about any fried liver tactic, just a simple capture on e5. Can you show me how white would win back the pawn in this position?


I don't know much about this position, but it looks extremely dangerous for white to me. The queen, bishop, and knight checks could be deadly. I would never want this position as white.

Musikamole
eXecute wrote:

 

I kind of like this variation, but with all opening traps etc, there are ways out and it's hard to remember everything.

What deception! Black permits White to play Ng5 and capture a rook - only to get mated by Black in the end.

I certainly wouldn't know, especially in a blitz game, how to get out of this trap. Thanks for the post! Smile I inserted a few variations into your trap that came from an engine. I seriously doubt White (human player) will be this clever in the last variation. Black has an easy win.  

6.c3!  - absolutely must be played for White to avoid the worst of the trap.


Sorbis
Eebster wrote:
Sorbis wrote:
gramarnazi wrote:
Sorbis wrote:

Black's Nxf2 is unsound, so I don't really call that a trap (imo, the setup of a good trap does not require an unsound move, but instead lured into what appears to be a good move). I'm assuming black takes f2 planning on fried livering back white's knight? Well, the knight can retreat to block the check and is protected by the pawn. So black just sacrificed a minor piece for a pawn (white can move his rook to f1, then king to g1 and pretty much be in good position).


Can you show me, i dont really see what you mean. If Kxf2, doesnt Nxe5 win a pawn for black? And no, i was not talking about any fried liver tactic, just a simple capture on e5. Can you show me how white would win back the pawn in this position?


I don't know much about this position, but it looks extremely dangerous for white to me. The queen, bishop, and knight checks could be deadly. I would never want this position as white.


So you agree that Nxf2 would of been good for black if it weren't for the trap i showed?

Azukikuru

This is one I tend to try against weaker players when I play the Queen's Gambit (it's worked twice!):

And another one that worked against the Scotch Game: