Chess with Witch and Joker GustavKlimtPaints - togepi2468

This is a rated Bulldog Chess game with Witch and Joker.

General rules for this game:

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/rules-for-bulldog-chess-with-witch

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess960-chess-variants/correspondence-chess-rules-for-variant-chess-proposal

Rules for pieces:

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/list-of-pieces-used-for-bulldog-and-infinite-chess

GustavKlimtPaints plays with white.

Enjoy the game!

This is a rated Bulldog Chess game with Witch and Joker.

General rules for this game:

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/rules-for-bulldog-chess-with-witch

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess960-chess-variants/correspondence-chess-rules-for-variant-chess-proposal

Rules for pieces:

https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/list-of-pieces-used-for-bulldog-and-infinite-chess

GustavKlimtPaints plays with white.

Enjoy the game!

1. f4

Question about the joker: say player A moves a queen, player B on their next move moves the joker in such a way that it is next to player A's king, let's say putting them in checkmate with the joker as a queen. Is player A checkmated, or if they are able to move a knight, bishop, rook, or pawn in such a way that the joker with the moving ability of that new piece would no longer actually be putting player A in check, they can then continue the game?

They're checkmated

Hm, seems strange because I think of a normal checkmate as: "well, whatever move you make, you can't prevent me from capturing your king next move" but that wouldn't be the case here

Hi, you can get out of check by moving with a piece such that the enemy Joker is no longer threatening your King. Does that answer your question?

silvertruck pls stop posting diagrams here, this is not your game.

wait, it never said anything about that you can do that in the forum

thanks evert, that makes more logical sense to me, as you wouldn't be in check next move

So I guess besides the 3 traditional ways of getting out of check:

1) move your king

2) capture the piece giving check

3) block the check

there is also:

4) change the way your opponent's piece moves

2. Ng3

And what did you play in your first game of bulldog chess?

@evert

how does a joker move after your opponent moves their own joker?

That other joker was already imitating some piece and it will be that piece.

I try to update the board approximately once a day.

Also, after castling the joker moves like a king (not like a rook).

Some questions:

Question 1:

Assuming blacks last move was a kings move, then is Je7 a checkmate or stalemate?

Question 2:

Blacks last move was a knight move. If white plays hxi3, then is black stalemated?

Question 3:

Black plays h1=Q. Can whites joker move like a queen or only a pawn?

Correct.

Question 1.
The white Joker has the King's movement and capture abilities, so is giving check in that position.
Black has no non-King-like piece on the board, so has no means to get out of the check.
Checkmate.

Question 2.
The white Joker has the Knight's movement and capture abilities, so is NOT giving check in that position.
Black has no non-King-like piece on the board, so has no legal move without putting himself into check.
Stalemate.

Question 3.
Good question. I got the answer in one of the many OTB tournaments organized by the inventor of the Joker.
My first interpretation had always been that the Joker moves like a pawn. But it has been claimed and reconfirmed that the Joker moves like a Queen. The last piece moved by the opponent is now a Queen. I have accepted that and we should follow that here.

ok, those were the answers I expected on the first 2 questions, but wanted to be clear.

The third question surprised me a bit, but I guess it makes sense

So in the third example if black would have his king on e8, then black should play h1=B