Anand vs Carlsen: World Championship match thread

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bean_Fischer wrote:

GM's who watch these games see how easy it is to beat both of them Anand and Carlsen. They are drawish GM's and play boring chess.

Surely you're joking. Anand is a worthy champion who has deservedly held the title for ~6 years and Carlsen has the highest rating of all time. Neither of these guys would be in his respective position without winning hundreds of games against top opponents. These guys are gods in every phase of the game but match strategy has taken a little out of the quality of the games. As far as the idea that they're boring players, I think stronger spectators will more easily appreciate these games (at least the third one). Lots of the ideas are over my head (I'm a high class C player OTB) but it was neat to see Anand creating a dynamic attack based mostly on simple threats earlier today. Any GM who sees this match and thinks Carlsen and Anand are easy to draw against is in for a rude awakening. These guys are mind-bogglingly successful chess deities and I hope it shows more in the remaining games. But they are certainly not boring or easy to beat.

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The first two games were snoozefests but this one was a lot better. There's a lot of talk about Anand missing Bxb2 but the last thing you want to do is make the game more complicated in time trouble when you have an advantage. That was the whole point of Carlsen playing e3 in the first place. 

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I hope he's joking kclemems, otherwise it's one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen.

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manfredmann wrote:

where is the link?

http://chennai2013.fide.com/live-game-with-video/

http://chessbomb.com/site/

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Interestingly, it's possible the Berlin could actually be a non-drawing weapon by Carlsen. While this seems antithetical, it gets very quickly to an endgame with an uneven pawn structure and slightly imbalanced material.

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Carlsen just grabbed a dangerous pawn



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rooperi wrote:

Carlsen just grabbed a dangerous pawn

It doesn't seem to be dangerous anymore.

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lol, no. Carlsen looks strong now

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Anand better do something good soon, or Carlsen's Queenside pawns will surely dominate later.

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Interesting stuff.

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Idk, I think Anand has good compensation...

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I don't understand this position, I have no idea lol.

Messing with it myself I can't make white's pawn scarry.  If they're not a threat then black's 3-1 majority on the queenside is really scary.

It's so weird to me that black is ok after 24...Bc8.  Optically white looks better... at least equal, but the development and kingside pawns aren't so effective.

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Is 27. Nf2 a good move in this position? It gives room to the rooks, defends the g4 pawn and makes it currently impossible for black to develop his bishop and queen side rook.

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It's a weird position.  Black exerts pressure form the sides and has no big weaknesses.

Nf2 doesn't hold all the pawns.  Black threatens hxg hxg g6 and if fxg6 Nxg6 after Be6 black is blockading the pawns and can go to work on the queenside.

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I'm glad I woke up, it looks like we have a game here!Smile

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Yep, today may be the first decisive game!

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We're on move 30, Houdini's first line is a draw by repetition on move 54, but it seems like there are many ways to play it without going for that.