It's Not Fair!

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artfizz
wormrose wrote:

I hate to be the first person in 74 posts to submit something serious about this subject but here goes...

There is "another website" at which players can select [no books or databases allowed] or [books and databases allowed] at the time they post a challenge or start a tournament. Why not make that option available here at chess.com? Of course it would merely be a courtesy since you couldn't prove whether or not a person used a database. But I think it would satisfy those who prefer to not use databases.


A few proposals have been floated to try to achieve this:

  1. by putting this information in your profile (Extended Personal Profilehttp://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/who-is-player-x)
  2. by using a short tag in your Status, Name or Location (Essential Chess Typehttp://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/its-another-rollover)
  3. by belonging to a group (or groups) whose ethos makes your preferences explicit e.g. (Win or Lose on your ownCircle of Trust OTBTally Team Non-UsersTally Team UsersChess Spartans[never resign], Chess Athenians[sometimes resign], Chess Turtles[move slowly], Fast Players Group[move quickly])
  4. by conveying information within the game NAME e.g. Let's Play! (UNAIDED)http://www.chess.com/forum/view/help-support/not-the-name-of-the-game

The advantage these have is that they don't depend on chess.com implementing anything new. The disadvantages are that they are not automatically updated, the information is not easily accesible and - apart from #4 - they are not on a per game or per tournament  basis.

The other point to bear in mind is that Database Use is just one of the indicators that your potential opponent may consider crucial. CHATability, RESIGNability, AFFabilty, DRAWability, SPEEDability... may be equally - or more - important.

wormrose wrote: And maybe it would put an end to the complaints of, "IT'S - NOT - FAIR!'

I doubt it. That's the way the cookie crumbles at chess.com - it's not fair!

disturbedman93

Well artfizz I think you might be on to something there.  Im on your side... 

Its surly not fair!!!

zlhflans

I'm out of toilet paper

 

It's not fair

Billium248
zlhflans wrote:

I'm out of toilet paper

 

It's not fair


 That's not good!!  Remember the immortal words of Matthew McConaughey: "The 2 things you NEVER want to run out of are toilet paper and condoms."

jessegoldman

How come I only get 8 pieces and 8 pawns?

It's not fair.

jessegoldman

How come I only get 1 point when I post something? And why does "fair" only get 4 letters when other words get more? 

No fair.

lenoco

Of course it's silly to use a computer when you are trying to improve your game.

I want to be better, not look better.  If you're using a computer to enhance your

"look" , it doesn't bother me, especially if your game is "ugly".  We all have our days.

it's not fair!

artfizz

Two players roll an ordinary six-sided dice. Of the two numbers showing, the smaller is subtracted from the larger. If the difference is 0, 1 or 2, player A gets 1 point. If the difference is 3, 4, or 5, player B gets one point. The game ends after 12 rounds. The player with the most points wins the game.

The game: it's fair? Or it's not fair?

zlhflans

If I lose

 

It's not fair

xqsme

C'est la vie! Too bad if

It's not fair

artfizz
jessegoldman wrote: How come I only get 8 pieces and 8 pawns?

It's not fair.


Pawns are pieces too - so you should have been getting 16 pieces. If you haven't been, then unquestionably ...

it's not fair!

artfizz
paul211 wrote:

Again no way to post a simple table with 20 lines and some comments.

Erick if you need more money to fix this problem just ask for it I will contribute.

On the other hand and in the interim please give us the rules on how to post.

In the last 2 weeks I have spent about 8 hours to do research and post 3 topics to no avail .

This needs your attention.

I want to contribute to the site with what I think is interesting and the community will decide but I cannot!!!


Paul, do you mind if I make a couple of points?

Regarding tables in forum posts: apply your very capable logic to this issue and estimate how much demand there is for tables in the forums. 20 people? 10? 5? As a proportion of chess.com's customer base, it accounts for a tiny fraction of one percent.

Not all problems can be solved by throwing money at them. As we discovered via the Wishlist discussions, business priorities and (lack of) appropriately skilled implementors are greater drivers than mere money. Also, as that discussion highlighted, the funding for chess.com comes best through the normal paid membership route than through any special loan or financing arrangements.

The main advice for using Tables:

1

format them using HTML e.g. create a table in Word (using a Table Web style)

2

keep them small in both width and number of rows (maximum 20 rows)

3

Or use fixed width fonts with explicit column spacing

Last, but not least: your post did not end with "it's not fair!".

artfizz
paul211 wrote:

Asking people to determine if your game was fair the answer is :NO IT'S NOT FAIR!

Why because in the theory of strategic games a real fair game would have a 51% of chances to win and this is not the case here. The table that I posted shows that when the number is lower from other dice by 0,1 or 2 happens in 67% of the throws, while higher by 3, 4 or 5 than the other dice is 33%.

SO: NO "IT'S NOT FAIR"


That has cleared that up.

When you have posted a comment ending with "IT'S NOT FAIR" and the system throws your ending away!!! then definitely ...

IT'S NOT FAIR!

PadawanPawn

Yawn

ELBEASTO

I think that people who use databases cannot benefit as much from playing.

It's not fair!

thegab03
PadawanPawn wrote:

Yawn


 Not fair!

GavinH

i had no idear about these rules. 

         i agree. 

                It's Not Fair!

artfizz
paul211 wrote:

Let me say that this post is over and close by saying:it's not fair to you.


But it only attracted 3038 views and 113 comments. For a topic of this calibre? It's not fair!

gumpty
i made the mistake of tracking this thread, and every single time i log on i have to read it and read it! ITS NOT FAIR!!
shreeganeshMpillai
artfizz wrote:

Why does every posting have to end like this?

It's not fair!


because fair & also not fair. like ?!