Stop locking forums.

Martin_Stahl wrote:

what exactly do you mean forbidden topic?

I don't understand... spacebux and chungle wrote those 2 days ago and the forum locked

Spacebux  

Not going to do it in my own words

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chesscom-posting-rules

Of course, in my personal opinion that topic had went off the rails a long time ago and had a lot of misinformation being posted. And a bunch of the same things posted over and over.

While there are certainly legitimate complaints, it is pretty obvious how the site is going to move forward and that there are much better methods of providing suggestions that align with that idea, such as the v2 group posted by Tyler. I know not everyone agrees with that alignment of development but it is very obvious that we aren't going back.

Bellero - I know exactly what Martin means.  The STAFF, however, are mostly to blame for leading the site in to that very space of Forbidden Territory.  They created the 3-ton White Elephant in the room and they expect us to talk around it without naming it.

Problem is, that White Elephant is the source of all that has gone wrong with the site in the past 2 years.  How can I possibly not name it now!?!?

If they won't confront it, then this site is lost.

The problem, Martin, is the Staff never bothered to correct the misinformation.  They continue to allow Users to remain in a gray area, tossing in tid-bits from all directions.  Logic, the only avenue left to those in the gray zones, leads to one a rather obtuse truth... the 3-ton White Elephant sitting in the middle of the room.

Going forward without confronting one's issues is hardly a prudent method of progress.  Like charging through a mine field knowing full well you'll lose some members of your team---the End is worth it in the minds of the Captains.

Well, when people posted information that could clear up misinformation people often got labeled negatively and if only one thing or some things got addressed, the other things and often the actual posts were hyper-critically panned. There comes a point were trying to clarify and help becomes frustrating. Often, clarification and help is not really wanted but the ability to rail against what isn't liked and claims that certain people are fools/hoodwinked and certain other people know the only right way.

But, the attempt to clarify and help was there for a long time and it was fairly clear that only one solution is/was acceptable to some. Then the topic veered there towards the end.

You and others were only attempting to convert, not to assist - there is a difference, Martin.  Do not confuse the two.

We were giving concrete, well documented grievences against v3.  Yourself and others were only there to tell us what we were seeing and experiencing wasn't all that in the grand scheme of things and things to come.  That our gripes were nothing more than petty arguments to 'rail against what isn't liked'.

That only fueled and fanned the flames, Martin.  Surely, you would have easily taken it as an offence to those like yourself that only attempted to help the wayward.

I'm not the one who re-wrote what chess.com is.

I'm not the one who forced others in to using the new construct.

I'm not the one who cajoled and promised everyone the moon without delivering a vehicle safe and sound enough to get there.

When I and others point out the flaws, we're labeled as 'backwards' and 'fear-mongers'.  You pat yourselves on the back and sigh for attempting to help us, but in the end, your ship to get to the moon is still flawed, probably set to sail from Bournemouth on its maidenvoyage as the Titanic once was.  Flank speed ahead, Martin.  Good luck to you all.

I understood the switch from V1 to V2 to be more compatible with Facebook and Twitter. But what problem does V3 solve? Is there some new development, similar to the rise of social media, that V3 will help us with?

@LawD - I (and others) began to enlighten the true motives behind v3's purpose.  Problem is, the Uppers don't like to discuss it or see it discussed openly. 

You'll find the answer located between '#' and '%'.

As we've said elsewhere on numerous times and occasions, V3 is the new platform we are moving towards because Chess.com V2 is built on 2008 technology that no longer works right. While it may be great on a user's perspective, the constant maintenance and upkeep required to maintain v2 is beyond the abilities of any modern-tech company. The servers that run it become older and slower since its the older ones that run it, and take up space. V3 is built to last longer with less need for maintenance and upkeep. We have a classic mode in v3 however that contains the V2 layout...

Try it => https://www.chess.com/classic

Very specifically, erik makes it clear in the opening comment of the v2 Club, the forum is NOT a place to discuss Mobile Devices. Please explain this ???

We have specific clubs for the mobile apps:

Android => https://www.chess.com/club/chess-com-android-club

iOS => https://www.chess.com/club/chess-com-ios-club

I'm going to try and not post here much more because I already see this is likely going the same route. If you got an attempt at conversion out of most of my posts, you were reading through your own biases.

You posted things you felt was wrong about v3 and was done better in v2. Agreed and I agreed with some of your points. If is the handling of solutions and belittling of the staff in charge of making decisions that really was what I was partially getting at.

And there was a lot of "railing" along with constructive criticisms. Yet, when really only one solution is presented, when it was clear that the site was committed to maintaining v3 and improving it as well as they can to try and clear up problems for the most people, then that to me is railing at that point.

erik has been more than accommodating, in my opinion. I fully expected v2 to be completely gone by now.  

tyler wrote:

secondly, Chess.com V3 is being entirely rewritten into Vue.js, one of the most light-weight Javascript frameworks. Since Javascript has sometimes a negative effect on load time, it is thanks to Vue.js that the previous bulky and slow Javascript pages and features are now becoming much smaller and much faster on a variety of machines. Pages such as home have been entirely rewritten, and future rewrites are in progress for live, navigation, and the entire layout. This rewrite comes with a variety of improvements and a new name => V4. Classic mode will also remain for now. Please bear with us as we work to [quickly] optimize and improve.

Was not the very same thing said 2 years ago with the start of v3? Could not the issue of a very slow web site been forseen ? And now it's on to v4, with all new promises. However, the "direction" of chess.com is the concern. Is it about the chess, providing a easy and user friendly place to play, or is it about chess.com reaching a 100 million members and being listed on the stock exchange ?

Dear tyler, here we are not talking about the clubs you advertise, but about your dictatorship over content!

In their quest for advertising $, this just posted porn does point out one thing, they do nothing to prevent it.

tyler, where are you, we miss you alot