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Daedalus

This situation is pretty rare, but it is always best to be prepared.

-einstein2191

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT [This kind of strategy will only work if your pawns are closer to promotion, so even if you break through, your opponent could still promote at the same time giving him/her the advantage. Be wary of this. It also can help if the your king is able to catch the opposing pawn before it is able to promote]

pHwnstar007

f5!!!!....this game is drawn.

Kupov2

I wonder how many people trained in this position use it, only to find that their opponents two passed pawns are closer to queening than theirs is.

bondiggity

Actually this line is a loss for white after gxf5:

 

Kupov2

ahahahahaha

Daedalus

Yep, you're right. The king needs to be closer or the pawns up a rank. Thanks for the analysis!

goldendog

When I've seen this little problem the pawns are moved up the board a rank.

DiveMSTR
bondiggity wrote:

Actually this line is a loss for white after gxf5:

 

 

The black pawns starting on F7, G7, H7 makes a big difference in the original post compared to your response.

Smallqpower11

remind me to remember

Bibisef307

Yeah,Daedalus one works because the Pawns are one rank more up

Arisktotle

For the past 14 years nobody noticed that the puzzle is flawed. White can even start with 1.Ka4 and win though I bet that 90% of you guys will screw it up.

magipi
Arisktotle wrote:

For the past 14 years nobody noticed that the puzzle is flawed. White can even start with 1.Ka4 and win though I bet that 90% of you guys will screw it up.

Wow, that's insane. Nice find. How did you realize this?

Arisktotle
magipi wrote:
Arisktotle wrote:

For the past 14 years nobody noticed that the puzzle is flawed. White can even start with 1.Ka4 and win though I bet that 90% of you guys will screw it up.

Wow, that's insane. Nice find. How did you realize this?

By not relying on similarity of positions. There are often so many details that matter! And I am not shy to engage an engine after my intuition raised a yellow flag. wink

HoangMinh220716
Wow
ChessDude009

This happened in one of my games, and performing the break was actually a blunder.

Go find it if you want.

Position was this.

InappropriateUsername3712

white depeding on king postion wins and this position rarely ever comes up ive never had it in all my years playing (mostly on lichess) it's often taught to demonstrate break thru's but it's not a practical lesson imo

things like the bathtub formation break thrus are much common naroditsky does a gr8 break thu vid

Sabin_Laurent

To break a 3v3 pawn formation in chess, you need to identify weaknesses in your opponent's pawn structure, control the center of the board, and exploit pawn leverage by creating pawn breaks. Activate your pieces and position them strategically to put pressure on specific squares or pawns, opening lines for your pieces to infiltrate your opponent's position. However, be cautious of king safety and calculate potential counterplay. Each position is unique, so careful analysis and calculation are necessary to effectively disrupt your opponent's pawns and gain an advantage.

gyregimble
Sabin_Laurent wrote:

To break a 3v3 pawn formation in chess, you need to identify weaknesses in your opponent's pawn structure, control the center of the board, and exploit pawn leverage by creating pawn breaks. Activate your pieces and position them strategically to put pressure on specific squares or pawns, opening lines for your pieces to infiltrate your opponent's position. However, be cautious of king safety and calculate potential counterplay. Each position is unique, so careful analysis and calculation are necessary to effectively disrupt your opponent's pawns and gain an advantage.

This is a lot of nice content compressed into a few lines!

That can be kept in mind to the follow up pawn-break problem with four pawns each:

J. Kling & B. Horwitz, 1853

White to move

The kings, of course, are not placed randomly, so there is but one solution.

magipi
gyregimble wrote:
Sabin_Laurent wrote:

To break a 3v3 pawn formation in chess, you need to identify weaknesses in your opponent's pawn structure, control the center of the board, and exploit pawn leverage by creating pawn breaks. Activate your pieces and position them strategically to put pressure on specific squares or pawns, opening lines for your pieces to infiltrate your opponent's position. However, be cautious of king safety and calculate potential counterplay. Each position is unique, so careful analysis and calculation are necessary to effectively disrupt your opponent's pawns and gain an advantage.

This is a lot of nice content compressed into a few lines!

Yeah, ChatGPT is pretty good.

Although poor AI has no way of knowing that his text has absolutely nothing to do with the position in question.

InappropriateUsername3712

in 3v3 you just push the middle pawn up the break on w/e side is farthest away from the king i though this has all been established. everything saint Laurent said is true but beside the point. control the center classically in the endgame look for pawn breaks and remember opposition and rule of square ect. beside the point of the question although info i good. ohh I don't know if this was mentioned but if its black to move or white and you want to not enable a passed pawn in 3v3 do the opposite just push either side pawn then there will be no passed pawn. but again I would bet a sub 2000 player plays 500 king pawn endings I would bet 500 dollars this doesn't happen. but nonetheless good to know not for practical purpose but rather understanding of pawn breaks bc counter intuitively at least to me all king pawn end games are pure tactics barring the exception the pawn race archetypes which are important to know bc those are the thematic pawn race configurations and if you queen 20 tempo before you opponent then no tactics needed remember the exception doesn't always define the rule especially in chess just ask Siri