At what point should someone quit chess?

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Antonin1957
MightyJaggy wrote:

So as the title asks, at what point should someone quit chess because they're no good at it? When they're winning something like 30%-40% of the time? When they go down to something like 800 elo, or struggle to get that high in the first place?

I don't want answers that are just "when you don't enjoy", that's not the question I'm asking. I only want answers that to do with a lack of skill.

Best answer (judged by me) will be gifted a gold membership.

Lack of skill should have nothing to do with when a person "quits" chess. There are many ways to enjoy the game. You can get as much fulfillment by studying the great players of the past as you do playing blitz and bullet and all that silly stuff people love so much these days. Chess is "the other beautiful game." It is an art. You don't have to be Picasso to love art. You don't have to be Ronaldinho to love beautiful soccer. You don't have to be as sublimely gifted as Tal to love beautiful chess. To me, chess is less about "winning" and more about appreciating the beauty and precision of what happens on that board.

earikbeann

I guess I have a different view of this. I think you should quit when you start caring what your rating is and using that as your guiding principle when making decisions. The point to a rating is to pair players who are relatively equal in strength. That's it. A 2000 level player isn't a "better" human than a 400. It just means they are better at playing a board game. 

It sounds to me like what you really don't like is losing most of your games. And if that's the case, just play people close to your own rating and it will eventually even out where you win about half. 

Lorgen

Once you're as bad as I am and can't fix it, quit.

PRWoodpusher

Never quit

fight on the beaches

fight on the oceans

fight at the chess board

never surrender.

Pan_troglodites

I don't know, but I'm afraid to become an addicted :-(

CenterMass51075

MJ—People do not quit due to a lack of skill but because they no longer want to invest the time required in developing their game.  Skill is developed thru study, training and application, which requires an investment of time.  Improvement is based upon how you invest in yourself.  People will give all kinds of excuses in quitting, but it still comes down to how much and how effective was their time spent. 

TheSwissPhoenix

when you are about to die

DuskPikachu

I think it depends on how serious someone wants to be in chess. If someone isn't willing to study or get better at it, I think they can keep it as a hobby or just stop playing chess.

ron10023

I would say that if someone is not smart enough, they will not be able to see beauty of chess, and after a while get bored with it. At that time, they could stop playing chess. But they can come back to the game again if they want =)

Celrawarrior

I would say it depends on what you want to achieve in Chess. I have just started playing the game and I lose most of the games I play. However, I enjoy learning and, more importantly, I enjoy seeing others better than me explaining the intricacies of Chess. What consoles me when I lose is the fact that I have seen GM's and high ranked players hang a queen or makes a blunder, so it makes me think Chess is for everybody. I would then say, do not give up Chess because you think you lack the skill, etc.  Most of the time it is  a matter of perception, you think you lack the skill or you are not learning fast enough. Try different learning methods, take a step back, coldy analize what the problems in your learning are, etc. Be more flexible in your training, ask for help, etc. In conclusion, do not give up out of perceived lack of skill, just change methods, look for other solutions and keep moving forward.

xor_eax_eax05

 You only want answers that have to do with a lack of skill ... But the truth is only you can set that marker, that goal post. No one from the Internet can set it for you. How skilled do you want to become? Is not being skilled enough enough reason for you to stop playing chess? Then by all means stop. Otherwise just keep playing.

 How could a random internet person tell you what to think? We are not in your head.

Nickk0105

JUST QUT IF THEY WANT TO 

1g1yy
CooloutAC wrote:

haha good question.   

I'm not even rated 400,  I  was stuck at 100 for like a week.  Made a forum post about it and they thought I was trolling.  I was ready to quit.  But to be honest its up to the individual person.  I took a step back and now do more practice then rated matches, bought some books watching videos.    If i get frustrated I take a break for the day.   Got my rating to steady in the 300s now.    Everyone's answer is going to be different but if you are not enjoying it definitely quit.  But IMO,  because There are plenty of people playing the game at my level,  which is enough to get mostly competitive matches almost every time, there is no reason to quit playing chess even if just as a fan.  If this was not the case though I would quit for sure.   But fortunately its popular enough to be competitive and fun for everyone at any level.  

I was just curious so I took a quick look at some of your games.  If I was to recommend one thing, I'd say take your time.  I see you play a fair amount of blitz, which imo isn't good for improvement.  But even when you play longer time controls, you're still playing blitz.  Here's an example of a 30 minute game finished in 18 moves where you have 26:?? still on the clock.  https://www.chess.com/game/live/26270436119?username=cooloutac Yes, it was a win, but in this game there were actually some very complicated positions to evaluate and you are just not studying the board enough.  

Here's a great video series to check out.   https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLl9uuRYQ-6MCBnhtCk_bTZsD8GxeWP6BV  When watching, listen to his thought process.  Yes, I get it, he's higher rated than you.  grin.png  But the lessons to be learned in that series are tremendous, even at higher rating levels.  He's also got loads of instructional videos to help with fundamentals. There's an entire chess fundamentals playlist there so check that out.  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLl9uuRYQ-6MBwqkmwT42l1fI7Z0bYuwwO

NiceAndFlowy

The promise of a gold membership as a bait for attention is something extremely pathetic, but the "Ok, no gold membership for you, sorry" as an attempt to invalid someone's answer is something even beyond pathetic.

You already had plenty of reasonable answers, you don't like them? you want to be a little attention seeker a bit longer? 

Quit the game and do something else then, I guarantee you nobody cares.

Wits-end

How can we miss you if you don’t go away? 

MMMorshu
NiceAndFlowy wrote:

The promise of a gold membership as a bait for attention is something extremely pathetic, but the "Ok, no gold membership for you, sorry" as an attempt to invalid someone's answer is something even beyond pathetic.

You already had plenty of reasonable answers, you don't like them? you want to be a little attention seeker a bit longer? 

Quit the game and do something else then, I guarantee you nobody cares.

Thing is though, none of the answers are what I'm looking for. I specifically said I don't want answers like "quit when you don't enjoy it", which is what everyone is saying when I'm not interested in that kind of answer.

I was more looking for answers like "you should quit if your win percentage is less than 50%", "if you're at a certain rating after a year you should quit", "if you make this kind of blunder you should quit". Something along those lines, but no one has given an answer like that. They've just given an answer that's irrelevant to my question.

1g1yy
NiceAndFlowy wrote:

The promise of a gold membership as a bait for attention is something extremely pathetic, but the "Ok, no gold membership for you, sorry" as an attempt to invalid someone's answer is something even beyond pathetic.

You already had plenty of reasonable answers, you don't like them? you want to be a little attention seeker a bit longer? 

Quit the game and do something else then, I guarantee you nobody cares.

You pretty much nailed it.  That's all this was.  And, starting a second account here to troll with was part of the deal.  Stuff like this works mostly because as a rule, most folks are more than willing to help others improve.  Then I suppose the troll gets some twisted satisfaction from seeing people do so, probably not realizing that even if it doesn't help the troll, it's likely to help someone else so they still offer answers.  They're not typing in order to get a membership they already have, they're just participating in a discussion.  

It's more fun than playing chess grin.png 

NiceAndFlowy
MightyJaggy wrote:
NiceAndFlowy wrote:

The promise of a gold membership as a bait for attention is something extremely pathetic, but the "Ok, no gold membership for you, sorry" as an attempt to invalid someone's answer is something even beyond pathetic.

You already had plenty of reasonable answers, you don't like them? you want to be a little attention seeker a bit longer? 

Quit the game and do something else then, I guarantee you nobody cares.

Thing is though, none of the answers are what I'm looking for. I specifically said I don't want answers like "quit when you don't enjoy it", which is what everyone is saying when I'm not interested in that kind of answer.

I was more looking for answers like "you should quit if your win percentage is less than 50%", "if you're at a certain rating after a year you should quit", "if you make this kind of blunder you should quit". Something along those lines, but no one has given an answer like that. They've just given an answer that's irrelevant to my question.

No offence but only a psychopath would start to play a game and quit EXCLUSIVELY based on the winning percentage at that game. I've met some big tryharders in some games/sports but the love/enjoyment for the game is always a factor.

If someone gives you an answer like " you should quit if your winning percentage is less than x" is simply a bad answer, and a dumb one too.

But i think you know better than me that your question is nonsensical, that's why you created a secondary account ( which shouldn't be allowed on chess.com by the way) exclusively for this attention seeking / trolling stuff.

Are you gonna close this one and come back to your main account once this conversation is over? 

Marie-AnneLiz
Pan_troglodites a écrit :

I don't know, but I'm afraid to become an addicted :-(

It's too late for you,you are already addicted wink.png

xor_eax_eax05
MightyJaggy wrote:
NiceAndFlowy wrote:

The promise of a gold membership as a bait for attention is something extremely pathetic, but the "Ok, no gold membership for you, sorry" as an attempt to invalid someone's answer is something even beyond pathetic.

You already had plenty of reasonable answers, you don't like them? you want to be a little attention seeker a bit longer? 

Quit the game and do something else then, I guarantee you nobody cares.

Thing is though, none of the answers are what I'm looking for. I specifically said I don't want answers like "quit when you don't enjoy it", which is what everyone is saying when I'm not interested in that kind of answer.

I was more looking for answers like "you should quit if your win percentage is less than 50%", "if you're at a certain rating after a year you should quit", "if you make this kind of blunder you should quit". Something along those lines, but no one has given an answer like that. They've just given an answer that's irrelevant to my question.

You should quit when your Rapid rating in chess.com reaches 1288.

Oh that's what it is, what a coincidence, I had not noticed that! Oh god, oh man, oh god...

Well, get on with quitting please. And give me my gold membership. As a matter of fact I dont care if you quit or not, I just want free membership. Ty.