Countering super-aggressive queen in the opening

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NeilKHess

So I am new to chess, and I am not even sure what this tactic is called, but it is when you have a super aggressive queen going to the edge of the board on like move 2 or 3.  I have lost to this tactic many times and I am just trying to figure out what are the best ways to counter it.  Here is a link to a recent example: https://www.chess.com/game/live/76818605893

Thanks all!

Neil

Maxatron3892
No ideas here
Maxatron3892
Sorry
NewPatzer

That's the "Patzer Opening". 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 Nc6 (best reply, defending the e-pawn), if 3.Bc4 DO NOT play ...Nf6, better is ...g6 4.Qf3 Nf6 (best) Black will play Bg7, castle etc etc. This is very easy equality if not more.

AChessPlayer2016

That's the Wayward Queen Attack. You'll need to respond correctly so you don't fall into trouble.

magipi

The main point is that you have to slow down and think about your moves.

After your opponent played 2. Qh5, you still have almost all 30 minutes on the clock, and you banged out g6 (probably the worst possible move in the position) in 12 seconds.

Don't do this. Don't play random moves. Use your time and think.

InopGauge

There are some good YouTube videos about how to defend against the Wayward Queen attack. Then you can practice defending it by playing as black against the Nelson bot.

NeilKHess

Thanks everyone!

PJ_Leiva
Defend the weak central pawn, chase around the queen (without worsening your position) and you'll end up with a lead in development and a better position in general.
checkmator11111
magipi wrote:

The main point is that you have to slow down and think about your moves.

After your opponent played 2. Qh5, you still have almost all 30 minutes on the clock, and you banged out g6 (probably the worst possible move in the position) in 12 seconds.

Don't do this. Don't play random moves. Use your time and think.

2nd worst actually to Ke7 (3. Qxe5#)

chryoyo0

every time your opponent makes a move you should question it. in this instance you'd ask what the queen is doing. the most obvious threat is queen takes pawn. so the pawn must be defended. afterwards we may be able to consider attacking the queen.

when a piece gets close to your territory dont panic and make a random move. those are the moments you should think the most

mrOpenRuy

you dont get to counter it, you just get a few tempos and hold a small advantage, thats really all sadly. the play cannot be punished to a higher extent

MorphysMayhem
NeilKHess wrote:

So I am new to chess, and I am not even sure what this tactic is called, but it is when you have a super aggressive queen going to the edge of the board on like move 2 or 3. I have lost to this tactic many times and I am just trying to figure out what are the best ways to counter it. Here is a link to a recent example: https://www.chess.com/game/live/76818605893

Thanks all!

Neil

How about Nc6 followed by Nf6? The white queen will have to beat a retreat and admit to Qh5 being a complete waste of tempi.

living5ton

Levy Rozman and Igor Smirnov both have good videos on how to punish early queen attacks.

7bubbles

Good

DejarikDreams
Capabotvikhine wrote:
NeilKHess wrote:

So I am new to chess, and I am not even sure what this tactic is called, but it is when you have a super aggressive queen going to the edge of the board on like move 2 or 3. I have lost to this tactic many times and I am just trying to figure out what are the best ways to counter it. Here is a link to a recent example: https://www.chess.com/game/live/76818605893

Thanks all!

Neil

How about Nc6 followed by Nf6? The white queen will have to beat a retreat and admit to Qh5 being a complete waste of tempi.

The problem is if white played 3. Bc4, then 3…Nf6 loses to 4. Qxf7#.

checkmator11111

I like to play 2...Nf6 gambiting the e5 pawn in order to get your pieces out

chryoyo0

https://www.chess.com/lessons/winning-the-game/the-4-move-checkmate

chess.com has made a tutorial on how to deal with this exact thing. while it doesnt go super indepth, it is enough to GREATLY help you deal with it