Best Move or Brilliant?

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xatwait, it would be nice to see your brilliant move.

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A few years ago--a GM gave a couple of positions which required a brilliant sequence to win. 

not to brag too much but I found the answers to the 2 positions when nobody else could.  Not bad for a 75 year old at the time.!?

Have found a few "brilliant moves"  in my 70 years of chess. 

 

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Don’t reanalyze games too much, because the computer “rethinks” your brilliant moves and downgrades them! I don’t know if that’s a glitch or the result of deeper analysis or a greater “expectation” algorithm (as you play more), but ... all my rare brilliant moves have been downgraded...😡 At least, my opponents’ brilliant moves are gone. I think brilliant should stay brilliant till the end, but nope!
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Often I see “alternative” best moves that are better or worse.. but there can’t be two best moves of differing strength, no?
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ponz111 wrote:

xatwait, it would be nice to see your brilliant move.

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/4209061576?tab=analysis

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ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

Thank God you didn't get long-winded!

Oh yes, I always avoid that at all costs. Only today, someone criticised a post I made about politics, which, of course, we're not allowed to discuss here, although I fail to think why discussing politics should be any more divisive that arguing about whether we prefer 1, e4 or 1. d4, and I felt myself being forced to protest that those who do not consider the different facets of situations are hardly well-advised to imagine that they can understand situations or indeed anything beyond simply making a pre-programmed response. But I really must stop making even this short and very much to the point reply to your interesting conjecture that we must indeed thank an over-arching and some would say, wholly invented spiritual focal point for the fact that we may or may not write more words than others would prefer to read, and for myself of course, as you can see, I always make sure I'm economical with verbiage, although only yesterday, my wife was saying that ....aaaaaaargh!

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We all know your politics Optimissed 

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The Best Move is the move which according to the engine leads to the most favourable  position, A Brilliant move is the exact same but just hard to spot. So all brilliant moves are best moves, but not all best moves are brilliant.

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which moves should be brilliant..define pls.

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I pointed out that the distinction is nonsense. At best, brilliance is highly subjective.

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Do you really find it entertaining? Thought it was more worrying/sad.

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I'm probably feeling a bit negative. Must have got the vapours, like middle class women used to get in times gone by.

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Feyde escribió:

A Brilliant move technically is the best move, however the chess engine must consider it to be quite hard to find it Brilliant. Like M-Connors said, it is basically the best move, but a "pat on the back" for finding it.

Feyde escribió: A Brilliant move technically is the best move, however the chess engine must consider it to be quite hard to find it Brilliant. Like M-Connors said, it is basically the best move, but a "pat on the back" for finding it.

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CRYYSIS wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

I'm probably feeling a bit negative. Must have got the vapours, like middle class women used to get in times gone by.

What did you say ?>>>

Are you ok at reading English or do you not understand the sentence?

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cornoy wrote:

 

Feyde escribió:

 

A Brilliant move technically is the best move, however the chess engine must consider it to be quite hard to find it Brilliant. Like M-Connors said, it is basically the best move, but a "pat on the back" for finding it.

 

Feyde escribió: A Brilliant move technically is the best move, however the chess engine must consider it to be quite hard to find it Brilliant. Like M-Connors said, it is basically the best move, but a "pat on the back" for finding it.

 

As I pointed out somewhere above, the engine cannot have the software necessary to determine that a move is "hard to find". by humans.

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Feyde wrote:

Basically the best move, but more subtle.

You can't have more than one best move...it's an oxymoron.

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CRYYSIS wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
CRYYSIS wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

I'm probably feeling a bit negative. Must have got the vapours, like middle class women used to get in times gone by.

What did you say ?>>>

Are you ok at reading English or do you not understand the sentence?

I do now

Cheers sorry, I know the way I sometimes write can be difficult. Even native English speakers sometimes can't stand it.

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ATV-STEVE wrote:
Feyde wrote:

Basically the best move, but more subtle.

You can't have more than one best move...it's an oxymoron.>>

The truth or otherwise of that assertion could be a great subject of a philosophical debate in the second year of a university course.

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Most of the moves that I've seen labeled as 'brilliant' have been obscure tactics or long-term piece sacrifices.

Though there was one time where my opponent sacrificed his bishop on h6 in the opening and the obvious recapture gxh6 was labeled 'brilliant' ... I'm still not sure what that was about.

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CrackLionIX wrote:

Most of the moves that I've seen labeled as 'brilliant' have been obscure tactics or long-term piece sacrifices.

Though there was one time where my opponent sacrificed his bishop on h6 in the opening and the obvious recapture gxh6 was labeled 'brilliant' ... I'm still not sure what that was about.

It's because one of the criteria for a 'brilliant' move AFAIK is that all other moves are at least 200 centipawns worse. Therefore, … gxh6!! tongue.png