Challenging Exchange Situation - Chess Forums

Traquisite

Aug 19, 2016

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#1

So while messing around with the Sicilian Hyper-Accelerated Dragon Defence, I came to this position. Peronally, I believe black's advantage is very prominent in this position, ignoring the fact he is a pawn up. If white moves his e pawn up, his queen is taken in exchange for a bishop, if the e pawn takes black's back f pawn, he loses a queen. I he moves his g pawn to g4, attacking the knight, the knight can simply move to f6 adding another attacking on the e pawn. Of course, white could check the black king with the bishop, but nothing is gained from that, and he can't just move the queen, considering that when the e pawn is taken, and it most likely will be, the king will be in check. The problem for white is that black has more attackers on the e pawn, and within a few turns will very much like to begin trading off peices, which he will win. And, if white doesn't decide to begin trading, and allows black to take the pawn, then black, next turn can simply move his now e pawn from e4 to e3, pinning the queen, and then taking it.

ITT: Good moves for white

ripachu

Aug 21, 2016

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#2

Your analysis is correct: white is indeed dead lost. However, I spent quite a while analyzing (or rather: overanalyzing :-]) this position, and found many interesting lines, some of which are even winning for white. Therefore I came to a conclusion: if black doesn't concentrate, things can go wrong very fast. That's also the last hope of white: he is desperate to get some counterplay, and should try to complicate matters as much as he could. With that being said, I think that my main line is so easy for black that even a less experienced player should win easily with it.

NOTE: My analysis might be incorrect at some points (even though I checked it with stockfish) and it definitely is overanalyzing. After all, the lines where white wins or draws are quite unlikely to actually happen (at least if black calculates a bit), but I wanted to let them be there anyway, as some of them were really interesting.

Anyway, I hope that you get something out of this!

ArtNJ

Aug 22, 2016

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#3

The position is visually repulsive for white. G4 looks easily refuted - just ignore it and play pxp. If white takes the knight e3 looks winning. I think white might be able to sac the exchange and keep playing a little bit, but its a loss. Nf6 probably wins as well.

Edit: Yes, computer verifies that g4 (and everything else) lose, and that after g4 both my pxp and nf6 both win.

Traquisite

Aug 24, 2016

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#4

ripachu wrote:

Your analysis is correct: white is indeed dead lost. However, I spent quite a while analyzing (or rather: overanalyzing :-]) this position, and found many interesting lines, some of which are even winning for white. Therefore I came to a conclusion: if black doesn't concentrate, things can go wrong very fast. That's also the last hope of white: he is desperate to get some counterplay, and should try to complicate matters as much as he could. With that being said, I think that my main line is so easy for black that even a less experienced player should win easily with it.

NOTE: My analysis might be incorrect at some points (even though I checked it with stockfish) and it definitely is overanalyzing. After all, the lines where white wins or draws are quite unlikely to actually happen (at least if black calculates a bit), but I wanted to let them be there anyway, as some of them were really interesting.

Anyway, I hope that you get something out of this!

Thank you ripachu, I did believe that was the situation. Personally if I were white I would resign at this point, if against an opponent I am sure is good. I'm not sure if you believe this is THAT bad, but having designed the situation I feel white has very little, if any chance against black, considering the fact that if this ever occurs, nine times out of ten black will know the hyper-accelerated dragon, and indeed the game in general quite well.

ripachu

Sep 11, 2016

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#5

@Traquisite

"Personally if I were white I would resign at this point"

I do agree with that one: I would only torture myself if I continued from the beginning position, at least if I knew that my opponent wasn't a complete beginner. Sorry it took me so long to answer: I completely missed your reply.