If white is terrible and takes then white loses... but if white is that bad they were going to lose anyway so why not play real moves instead of BS. If White is halfway decent after the trap is declined black's position has a pair of self-inflicted wounds -- the kingside is ventilated and the N is misplaced... not the sort of thing Bobby Fischer was known for, by the way.
Fishing Pole Trap
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Sep 7, 2012
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Here's a turn based game against a 1630+ (then) opponent who resigned on move 9 after biting the bait dangling on the line of my h file fishing pole.
(In before "not sound, cheap tactic, doesn't really work, dubious, wouldn't work against stronger player, don't you think you're cool, etc.)
Black generously donates his king to a good cause.
Sep 8, 2012
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#25
bronsteinitz wrote:
@frank: really neat fishing hat :-)
You can insult me, you can insult my game but please don't insult my hat!
Sorry Frank :-)
game is useful to try.
No, the hat is much more useful.
If it had fishing lures and hooks & stuff hanging down from it, that would even be thematic.
Those worked well when I was younger. The good old days...
The Fishing Pole concept is as old as Greco but Life Master Jack Young invented the term - fishing for cheap tactics against fish. thousands of examples at DenverChess.com, BrianWallChess@Yahoogroups.com, Joel Johnson's Formation Attacks, How To Play Chess Like an Animal or youtube videos.
8th move by black: ... Ng4!
Sorry if im just being stupid, Im still quite new to chess.
If I had a bishop aiming at the f2 square and the opponent ignored my fishing pole, is it bad to just sac the knight and bishop for the f2 pawn and a rook?
Yeah two pieces are much better here.
I remember looking at this thread right after it came out...and that was when I leanred this trick. But I've only used it, at most, once since then.
I've never used it simply because if you're opponent is not enough of a beginner to fall for silly tricks it's of questionable use, and you constantly have to worry about the position changing and it becoming safe to take.
Life Master Jack Young says it is "fishing for cheap tactics against fish"
tons of analysis and games at BrianWallChess@yahoogroups.com or Joel Johnson books
The Fishing Pole concept is as old as Greco, you can find examples in the first 20 games in Megadatabase. LM roommate Jack Young calls it the Fishing Pole - the idea is to use cheap tactics against fish. Knight is the bait, rookpawn is the Fishing rod, weak player =fish grabbing the bait. I have played over 10,000 Fishing Poles. much analysis and games in BrianWallChess@Yahoogroups.com, www.Chesslike an Animal, any book by Joel Johnson and many Youtube videos.
Anyone know why it's called the Fishing Pole?
Have you boys got no imagination? Obviously the Rook is the 'handle' part of the fishing rod, your Queen is the far part of the rod and there is bait on the fishhook. It is the straightness of the file which suggests the name. Of course, I am only guessing after a moment's thought, but how can it be anything else?