Is analysis board during dailies cheating? - Chess Forums - Page 2

Smositional

Apr 8, 2018

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chess_is_9ay wrote:

Smositional wrote:

chess_is_9ay wrote:

BronsteinPawn wrote:

So if you move pieces you dont have to calculate?

It is the equivalent of using a calculator to perform mathematical operations rather than one's own mind. However, in this case it is insignificant because chess is a stupid game with no merits and taking time out of one's day to purposely make something harder on oneself is even stupider than chess itself.

Then what is your point of being here? You're wasting your time as well because you post a lot on a forum about a game you "don't care" about.

You're putting way to much effort into all your post considering you don't like the game at all.

I'm taking time from my day to help others avoid the trap that is chess. Perhaps those mind could be put to better use, perhaps studying physics or maybe mathematics. Then again, chess players have no intelligence outside of their game, so I guess they're free to do what they want.

I don't know where you come from but in my chess club there are a lot of educated people who are successful in their respective fields (physics, chemistry, medicine, mathematics etc.).

AntonioEsfandiari

Apr 8, 2018

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chess_is_9ay wrote:

Smositional wrote:

chess_is_9ay wrote:

Smositional wrote:

chess_is_9ay wrote:

BronsteinPawn wrote:

So if you move pieces you dont have to calculate?

It is the equivalent of using a calculator to perform mathematical operations rather than one's own mind. However, in this case it is insignificant because chess is a stupid game with no merits and taking time out of one's day to purposely make something harder on oneself is even stupider than chess itself.

Then what is your point of being here? You're wasting your time as well because you post a lot on a forum about a game you "don't care" about.

You're putting way to much effort into all your post considering you don't like the game at all.

I'm taking time from my day to help others avoid the trap that is chess. Perhaps those mind could be put to better use, perhaps studying physics or maybe mathematics. Then again, chess players have no intelligence outside of their game, so I guess they're free to do what they want.

I don't know where you come from but in my chess club there are a lot of educated people who are successful in their respective fields (physics, chemistry, medicine, mathematics etc.).

Now imagine how much greater they could have been or maybe even could be if they took the time they spent on a pointless board game and used it to study more instead.

Maybe some people need a game to compress from the grueling stress of their daily lives, what other games do you advocate or are you anti-games in general?

AntonioEsfandiari

Apr 8, 2018

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#23

a balanced life is very important for the healthy mind

Chesseract557

Apr 9, 2018

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chess_is_9ay wrote:

Incorrect. It is the equivalent of being in the store and yelling at the customers inside. Only if I played any games would it be equivalent to eating the food.

You're still wasting your time if you make an account for a website on a game you don't even care about. I mean, what's the point? You're better off doing something else you do care about.

Chesseract557

Apr 9, 2018

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chess_is_9ay wrote:

I'm taking time from my day to help others avoid the trap that is chess. Perhaps those mind could be put to better use, perhaps studying physics or maybe mathematics. Then again, chess players have no intelligence outside of their game, so I guess they're free to do what they want.

Your assumptive and misleading statement is a blatantly and laughably illogical fallacy, because contrary to your quote I actually do have a life outside of chess. Chess itself has an educational purpose; it helps you with your ability to analyze situations and allows your brain to exercise. It is also simply a very fun board game that has roots since the 8th century. Board games like chess are certainly better alternatives to video games for spending your leisure time. You call chess a "trap," right? But your logic is equally or exceedingly flawed; by trash-talking about the game on chess.com you yourself are falling into a trap of your own, wasting time babbling hate against chess on a chess website when you yourself could be something more productive. Besides, you have yet to provide any concrete proof that chess players have no life outside the game, but yet again... You can't handle the truth!!

RoobieRoo

Apr 9, 2018

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Feral23 wrote:

Is using the analysis board during a daily game cheating? It's right there at the bottom of my iPhone screen, hard not too .. but seems way too powerful having a spare board. Sorry noob to chess.com. Don't get me wrong I LOVE the feature. It's causing me to enjoy my chess games more but I feel like a wrong-un using it .. 😂

correspondence aka daily chess is essentially the art of analysis

Smositional

Apr 9, 2018

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robbie_1969 wrote:

Feral23 wrote:

Is using the analysis board during a daily game cheating? It's right there at the bottom of my iPhone screen, hard not too .. but seems way too powerful having a spare board. Sorry noob to chess.com. Don't get me wrong I LOVE the feature. It's causing me to enjoy my chess games more but I feel like a wrong-un using it .. 😂

correspondence aka daily chess is essentially the art of analysis

daily chess is the art of having a good time on vacation. Any recommendations?

RoobieRoo

Apr 9, 2018

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#28

are you taking a short holiday, so soon?

Smositional

Apr 9, 2018

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Yeah, I have to. I have no choice. Time to say goodbye. BTW robbie, why no videos anymore?

RoobieRoo

Apr 9, 2018

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#30

ouch, for how long?

Smositional

Apr 9, 2018

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#31

will you continue at some point?

Smositional

Apr 9, 2018

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#32

oh wait, you're still uploading videos.

torrubirubi

Apr 9, 2018

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#33

AntonioEsfandiari wrote:

You can use your analysis board during daily chess, but it is just cheating yourself. The most important aspect to improving in chess is typically improving your "calculation/visualization skills." This comes pretty much ONLY from hard work!! Forcing yourself into strenuous mental focus, trying to look as far ahead as you can, as accurately as you can, while considering all of the important details as much as you can. The brain is like a muscle and only through hard work can you actually improve your brains ability to simulate and predict future outcomes. Using analysis board is easy and doesn't cause much mental strain, you cheat yourself out of all the hard work.

Using analysis board in daily chess is like going to the gym, stretching, getting the bench press ready, putting weights on the bench press, getting underneath the weight, centering your arms just right, but then you don't even bother to lift the weight or exert yourself at all, you get off the bench, put the weights back, wipe down the bench, drink a protein shake and then go home.... lol why even bother going to the gym?

In the beginning I was playing without the analysis board. As you said, I was trying to improve my visualization. But I realized that both are possible: first trying to visualize, write down, and then use the analysis board to check everything.

Okay, I have to tell you the true and confess that I am not really doing this very consequently. But now I will try again.

Do you see, even if somebody only use the analysis board, the exercise is not completely nonsense. I spend a lot of time thinking on a position, often on my iPad, writing down the variations, learning how to play better chess.

But the way I told you before (mix visualization and analysis board) if for sure a good compromise.

AntonioEsfandiari

Apr 9, 2018

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@torru you are doing good buddy! As long as you are pushing yourself in some way you can be proud! And if you aren't pushing yourself at all... well then you can at least be entertained

torrubirubi

Apr 9, 2018

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AntonioEsfandiari wrote:

@torru you are doing good buddy! As long as you are pushing yourself in some way you can be proud! And if you aren't pushing yourself at all... well then you can at least be entertained

Thanks. Today I spent something like two hours to calculate the consequences of what I think would be the most critical line for white, and something else was played. It is interesting to see that even if there is a completely different move, you can still use a lot of the information that you got from the other calculation. I will try in this game from now on to calculate first without the analysis board.

Boy, this will not be funny, as I am very VERY bad in visualization. It is something that it is really hard to improve (my spatial orientation is a joke, it has probably something to do with this). In any case, I will give a try.

RoobieRoo

Apr 9, 2018

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Smositional wrote:

oh wait, you're still uploading videos.

yes but its only because the creative process is a reward in itself, I may not be very good with the chess pieces but i sure know my way around graphics software and a video editor.

captaintugwash

Apr 9, 2018

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#37

I play chess (using an analysis board), study both mathematics and physics, and masturbate. This thread belongs to me.

Smositional

Apr 9, 2018

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robbie_1969 wrote:

Smositional wrote:

oh wait, you're still uploading videos.

yes but its only because the creative process is a reward in itself, I may not be very good with the chess pieces but i sure know my way around graphics software and a video editor.

It's about the passion. Forget rating! Nice videos!

Kagerou_Echo

Apr 9, 2018

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#39

This win in daily chess was purely due to use of analysis board. A critical moment at move 40, where I reject a likely draw for interesting complications, and the potential brilliancy I rejected

torrubirubi

Apr 9, 2018

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Phantasm_Kagerou wrote:

This win in daily chess was purely due to use of analysis board. A critical moment at move 40, where I reject a likely draw for interesting complications, and the potential brilliancy I rejected

Interesting game!