The Waywark Queen Attack - Explained

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The Wayward Queen Attack is the most common form of attack for chess players around 300 elo. In this forum. We will discuss different ways to combat what some would consider "the most annoying opening of all time."

PLAYING AS WHITE

1. e4  e5 2. Qh4 g6 3. Qxe5+ be2 4. Qxr8...

(2. ...kc6 3. bc4 kf6 4. Qxf7#)

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Hi

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I play the wayward queen at 2200 as well. It's a decent opening if you play it correctly. And by the way, knights are written as N in notations because K is already King

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The Wayward Queen Opening is always angry because the "clippity clop!" of goats skipping on the bridge overhead,is so loud.

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I found a defense against Wayward

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Hey this is magus this is my new account accually ... Be my friend I will tell about ...

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Bro is not magnus, and the wayward queen attack is not a good opening anywhere past around 700 elo. It leaves the queen vulnerable and allows black to develop quicker because they can develop and attack the queen (aka gaining tempi)

However if you are playing a low rated player it can sometimes work if on move two they move the pawn to g7 without seeing Qxe5+ with Qxh8 next move.

Overall, I wouldn’t recommend this opening to anyone beginner or not because you cannot really play it once ppl start knowing common openings

If you are low rated I would study how to defend because it is played very frequently and if you don’t know how to defend it you are going to get demolished.
(Sorry this is long)
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Complexity_620 wrote:
Bro is not magnus, and the wayward queen attack is not a good opening 

Ironically the Wayward Queen is Magnus Carlsen's suggested opening for beginners, probably not because it's actually good, but because it teaches you so many things. If it's defended badly black loses at least a pawn and maybe a rook or more, if it's defended correctly it can be turned into a Scholars mate attack etc.

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hihihi

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There's a bot rated around 2100 which plays it as black and white.

The point of it is all about the unfamiliar patterns, whch makes it excellent for fast games. Someone who knows the themes will be able to get double attacks which can't be countered. It is not actually a bad opening but it helps if you're an engine, if you want to play it.

The correct way to play against it is just develop and develop with tempo whan you're not pushing the Q to a better square. Some of its threats say to win a pawn are bluffs and others are not.

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Its not a good opening, but it can be annoying. A simple enough counter is ignoring the queen, playing knight c6, and continuing from there.

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Pekok

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Stirfrymoho wrote:

Its not a good opening, but it can be annoying. A simple enough counter is ignoring the queen, playing knight c6, and continuing from there.

this is the book defence, and what Stockfish does.

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There are lots of benefits to wayward queen opening:

Even though it isn't likely your oponent is stupid enough to fall for these it still is effective especially for early in the game

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These are all fine and may sometimes work, but above 700 Elo opponents will always see traps like these and eventually punish you for your violation of opening principles.

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Hikaru used to play this line on a serious lelel a while back. Its not so much a meme opening as people make it out to be.

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Yes, but at a certain point it is no longer useful as a trap opening (which is why beginners play it), and the risk of losing several tempi by getting your queen threatened is much more likely than the chance one of your opponents will blunder a rook or mate, for example. The most common response by far (according to Lichess) is to play Nc6 and continue developing normally.

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Stirfrymoho wrote:

Yes, but at a certain point it is no longer useful as a trap opening (which is why beginners play it), and the risk of losing several tempi by getting your queen threatened is much more likely than the chance one of your opponents will blunder a rook or mate, for example. The most common response by far (according to Lichess) is to play Nc6 and continue developing normally.

Yes I agree, when I was begining on chess.com I always opened with wayward queen and my 200 rated opponents almost always fell into the trap. However now it is not as effective.