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(The feature that lets you do what I did) (above)

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SchoolQuinnChesster wrote:

Wait what exactly is a miniature?

A miniature is a chess game usually under 25 or 30 moves, that often demonstrates a particular tactic, mating pattern, or opening trick.

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ChessAGC_YT wrote:

(The feature that lets you do what I did) (above)

That's called a diagram.

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ahhh

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Playing the wormsnake against an 1800 bullet player, and got one of those games where all goes according to prep -

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A disgusting miniature in daily chess:

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Win by luck:

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xixililuohoubing wrote:

Win by luck:

Nice game but…. In what world was that a miniature?

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chekagain 写道:
xixililuohoubing wrote:

Win by luck:

Nice game but…. In what world was that a miniature?

Sorry, my English is not good, I don't know what you mean.抱歉我英语不好,不明白你的意思。

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xixililuohoubing wrote:
chekagain 写道:
xixililuohoubing wrote:

Win by luck:

Nice game but…. In what world was that a miniature?

Sorry, my English is not good, I don't know what you mean.抱歉我英语不好,不明白你的意思。

Too many moves. Should be about 25 moves or less.

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Yes

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There hasn't been a clear or fixed definition of what is a miniature. In old books you could see games with 20 or less moves to be called miniatures, some even considering only those games where mate is delivered or imminent. Of course this would make miniatures a total rarity nowadays, except for really bad games by patzers.

The most common modern definition is "in general games with 25 moves or less". However there's plenty of games presented in articles and books as miniatures that are 25- bellow 30 moves, so I go by that, slightly more flexible, definition.

I think I've seen a game here recently with 33 moves being called a miniature. I wouldn't certainly call a game of mine that long a miniature, but as long as the spirit of a what a miniature means (a short game) is there, who cares really?

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A Scandinavian.

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In working with definitions, one must be precise. Otherwise, you’ll find that definition something in the spirit will lead to misuse or overuse of the word, which generally allows the definition of that word to become useless.

A miniature is a game that is 25 moves or less. Ideally, it should be something that one can learn from or be entertaining, but that is not always the case.

Sometimes a player wants expand this definition to more than 25 moves because he wants to show it off and so claims, “It’s a miniature because I want it to be. And since I’m free to define the number of moves it should be classified as a miniature. There have been games in this forum that are 30+ moves long, 40+ moves, and even a few that reach 70+ moves.

Some players want to expand their definition because of a book by Karpov says so. But if you look at his book, you’ll find many games by him that are over 25 moves long. An obvious case of self-promotion. But why believe him?

Do you know of any other writer who agrees with this definition? All the miniatures books I own, by Wall, CCGM Harding, FM Hansen, GM Soltis, and others, adhere to the limit of 25 moves for a miniature. If one has a question about the definition of something, then it is best to ask a master of the subject. In this case, it’s already been answered.

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Barefoot_Player wrote:

Sometimes a player wants expand this definition to more than 25 moves because he wants to show it off and so claims, “It’s a miniature because I want it to be. And since I’m free to define the number of moves it should be classified as a miniature. There have been games in this forum that are 30+ moves long, 40+ moves, and even a few that reach 70+ moves.

No, like some others I simply do not care whether the game is a miniature, since what we're doing here is of our own will which supersedes what the OP / yourself have to say.

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@ crazedrat1000

LOL ! 

Then why post your game in this forum, titled “My Favorite Miniatures”? 

It’s because you want to promote your game, even when you know your game is over 25 moves, and yet claim it is a miniature. Otherwise, why post here? There are many other forums that are titled, “Sacrifices, “Brilliant Games”, and so on, where your game would probably be more appreciated, admired, and appropriate.

Thank you for proving my point! 

OBTW, I didn’t come up with the definition, It is, however, the definition used in Informant and this very website, chess.com.