Iyvho = In your very humble opinion. That one was my 'bait' for you, hehe.
The intent of many people was clearly to (mis)use orthography (again, they did not show grammatical mistakes) to declare my arguments about chess and math as incompetent: classical case of trolling. My messages were clear (in case of math: as much as they can be).
You learn fast: good use of the double colons. :-)
It is wrong to focus on some grammer mistakes of a person whose English is his/her 2nd language.
There are many words I cannot pronouce even at my semi-advanced age-does this mean I should not talk?
[some will say "yes!"]
Yekatrinas is certainly not a "troll" but she is often attacked by "trolls"
Actually, she is very educated, even at her relatively young age.
Yekatrinas didn't start the conversation about her grammar, and i doubt the grammatical mistakes are intentional. I don't see how she could be seen as a troll in all of this.
I don't think LoekBergman is trolling either. The topic jumped onto grammar and he had responded to the questions (which doesn't seem trollish.)
Yekatrinas is certainly not a "troll" but she is often attacked by "trolls"
I do not think Yekatrinas is a troll, despite her having troll-like qualities.
so what's the truth ? You can decide, are you on my side, or not ?
Where did I commit a grammatical mistake ? No one has shown me any. I made some orthographical mistakes, some of then were forgivable: Math and Physics are indeed written in capital letters often, when it comes to titles of institutions, for instance.
Your errors in grammar were pointed out, but those errors are irrelvant to your arguments about math. I can assure you that English is less flexible than you want to make it.
I dropped out of Calculus (capitalized because it is a specific course--Math 171) in April 1982. Having missed the deadline for withdrawing from a course, my quitting had consequences for my transcripts.* Hence, I am not qualified to comment on your alleged "outing" of chiaroscuro62. I can tell you that he is absolutely correct on the matter of distance running.
I do agree that Lilov's case against Ivanov is compelling.
On matters of grammar and the Fried Liver Attack, I am most certainly not on your side. We do seem to agree that Ivanov cheated.
*Not many history majors get through 1/2 a semester of calculus, so I don't feel too bad. But math is like Greek, it's hard to keep up the skills when they are not used, especially when those skills were marginal in the first place. I was barely getting by in calculus, and my reading knowledge of Greek was quite minimal at its peak in the mid-1980s.
Outing of chiaroscuro? The usual rules apply - I will bet on anything I write on the Internet. For idiots like Yekatrinas, I gave very substantial odds and advantages. I wonder what I said about distance running (which I used to be ok at except my best distance was 3000M - 2 Miles, distances which men almost never get to race).
I agree with Rooperi. I called it after 3 posts, "you take yourself way too serious" , but there is no stopping it seems...
Outing of chiaroscuro? The usual rules apply - I will bet on anything I write on the Internet. For idiots like Yekatrinas, I gave very substantial odds and advantages. I wonder what I said about distance running (which I used to be ok at except my best distance was 3000M - 2 Miles, distances which men almost never get to race).
You told a story about Rosie Ruiz and being labeled a sexist.
I had a similar experience (being labeled sexist) when I mentioned that I finished Bloomsday running most of the last mile with the number three woman in the race, and then outsprinting her at the finish. (I finished in the top 200 of 5000 runners.)
My adversary who called me a sexist said that if I was that good, I would be on the college's XC team. At that time, Henry Rono was our college's top runner and he held four world records. I had been B squad in high school and was no where near the standards for Pac-10 XC, although I was faster than most women runners. My best 5-mile time was 27:30 and I was planning my first marathon when I ripped up my calves in a ten mile race that I finished in just over 64 minutes. Don Kardong won that race about ten minutes in front of me. I placed 16th.
... good use of the double colons. :-)
In English, ':' is known as a colon, not a double colon. I'm guessing it is a double colon in Dutch, right?
At first I thought that Dutch was more logical, since ';' is a semicolon, and ':' has twice as many dots. But it's actually English that is the more logical. If a single dot were a colon, then the correct forms would be 'double colon' for ':' and 'colon' for ';' (which has only one dot), whereas if a colon were two dots, then the correct forms would be 'colon' for ':' and 'semicolon' for ';', as in English.
When we say 'double colon' in English, we mean '::', as in '4:7::16:28' (meaning '4 is to 7 as 16 is to 28', as you might see on a school test).
@sapientdust: the direct translation for : from Dutch would be double point. The direct translation for ; is point comma.
I made a contamination in a foreign language. Yes!
"You told a story about Rosie Ruiz and being labeled a sexist."
Oh yeah....Rosie Ruiz. Marathons were never my best distance (never broke 3:00 despite years of trying) but I bet I ran much better than Rossie ever did.
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Ziryab, I believe you must win our game with the 'Fried Liver Attack' (what a disgusting name! who invented it?), because my initiative has died about ten moves ago already. But I am curious to see how the game continues.
Is the Fried Liver Attack already theoretically refuted (in the sense that Black gets a winning advantage) ? If not, our game makes me guess, there might well be one soon.
MMaybe, but your central pawns remind me of some of Philidor's games. I'm not out of the woods yet.
Fegatello Attack in the Two Knights Defence: "an extensively analyzed variation that favours White. It was known to the 16th-century Italian masters and the name is Italian for a piece of liver, perhaps implying that the sacrifice of White's knight is like a slice of liver used as bait in a trap."
David Hooper and Kenneth Whyld, The Oxford Companion to Chess (1996).
@sapientdust: the direct translation for : from Dutch would be double point. The direct translation for ; is point comma.
Thanks! Dutch wins in the end: it is clearly more consistent.
There's a scene in Crime and Punishment where an old horse pulling a large cart comes up lame right next to a tavern. The owner starts whipping the horse. A crowd gathers and there's blood all over the place. But the horse does not move. Finally, the owner pulls out a crow bar.
Well, you get the picture.
I watched Tiger_Lilov's 70 minute video where he analysed the games from Zadar. Aside from the first game (which was theory well past when lilov started calling them 'computer moves') I'd have to say it was very convincing and informative.
Fegatello sounds more disgusting to my ears. It sounds like something people get up to in the kitchen.
I watched Tiger_Lilov's 70 minute video where he analysed the games from Zadar. Aside from the first game (which was theory well past when lilov started calling them 'computer moves') I'd have to say it was very convincing and informative.
I agree - I thought this video was fascinating and useful. The fact is that the GM chess teacher that most of us have access to is Fritz or Houdini or whatever and sometimes the lessons from that teacher are not so good. Lilov's video showing that BI cheated has lots of pedagogical value in showing us these wacky computer moves that we shouldn't try to imitate.
Fegatello sounds more disgusting to my ears. It sounds like something people get up to in the kitchen.
You need to hear an Italian speaker: http://www.forvo.com/word/fegatello/
You still don't get it.
YOU are the troll. Why on earth are you posting messages about math and grammar in this thread?
As a matter of fact, you are the worst kind of troll, because you feel justified in pushing your little self-centered agenda. I suspect you're a little spoilt brat used to getting your way. It's a very unattractive trait.