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I recently tried to share my experience about timer and movement issues, but I noticed that my posts are being edited, with important parts removed.

If my genuine concerns and observations keep getting censored here, I will have no choice but to publish my video evidence on YouTube so that the full situation can be seen and openly discussed.

I believe players deserve full transparency, and I hope Chess.com will allow honest discussions without editing out the main points.

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Bichu-1 wrote:

I recently tried to share my experience about timer and movement issues, but I noticed that my posts are being edited, with important parts removed.

If my genuine concerns and observations keep getting censored here, I will have no choice but to publish my video evidence on YouTube so that the full situation can be seen and openly discussed.

I believe players deserve full transparency, and I hope Chess.com will allow honest discussions without editing out the main points.

Your opponents can not impact the clock.

Any clock issues you see are related to lag, lag compensation, and/or disconnects.

https://support.chess.com/article/423-why-did-the-clock-times-suddenly-change-the-clocks-seem-broken

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Martin_Stahl wrote:
Bichu-1 wrote:

I recently tried to share my experience about timer and movement issues, but I noticed that my posts are being edited, with important parts removed.

If my genuine concerns and observations keep getting censored here, I will have no choice but to publish my video evidence on YouTube so that the full situation can be seen and openly discussed.

I believe players deserve full transparency, and I hope Chess.com will allow honest discussions without editing out the main points.

Your opponents can not impact the clock.

Any clock issues you see are related to lag, lag compensation, and/or disconnects.

https://support.chess.com/article/423-why-did-the-clock-times-suddenly-change-the-clocks-seem-broken

I understand what you are saying about lag, but what I recorded is not just a normal lag effect. In my video, the clock actually moves in an anti-clockwise direction —

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Bichu-1 wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Bichu-1 wrote:

I recently tried to share my experience about timer and movement issues, but I noticed that my posts are being edited, with important parts removed.

If my genuine concerns and observations keep getting censored here, I will have no choice but to publish my video evidence on YouTube so that the full situation can be seen and openly discussed.

I believe players deserve full transparency, and I hope Chess.com will allow honest discussions without editing out the main points.

Your opponents can not impact the clock.

Any clock issues you see are related to lag, lag compensation, and/or disconnects.

https://support.chess.com/article/423-why-did-the-clock-times-suddenly-change-the-clocks-seem-broken

I understand what you are saying about lag, but what I recorded is not just a normal lag effect. In my video, the clock actually moves in an anti-clockwise direction —

You will save yourself a lot of aggrevation if you LEARN how the site works.

The clock that you see on your computer screen is NOT the actual game clock. It is only an estimate.

How could it possibly be the actual clock? There might be a hundred thousand people all playing chess at the same time as you. What sort of super-computer would chess-com need, to handle a hundred thousand Internet lines all at the same time?

The chess-com games manager only connects to you at the moment the moves are made, either yours or the opponents. It SENDS you the actual game time at that moment. Then your own computer manages the clock on your screen... but your own computer CANNOT correct for your opponent's lag, because there is never any direct connection between the opponent's computer and yours. YOU connect to the server. THEY connect to the server. Not to each other.

So each time that you or your opponent makes a move, chess-com updates both clocks, yours and the opponent's, to the ACTUAL game times from the master server. Sometimes this means no apparent adjustment. Sometimes it means an adjustment forward... and sometimes backward. It depends on the difference between your lag and the opponent's lag.

So yes, sometimes the clock will appear to move backwards.

Do you have any idea how you sound, making THREATS just because you don't understand how the system works?

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i get it now

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thanks

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blueemu wrote:
Bichu-1 wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Bichu-1 wrote:

I recently tried to share my experience about timer and movement issues, but I noticed that my posts are being edited, with important parts removed.

If my genuine concerns and observations keep getting censored here, I will have no choice but to publish my video evidence on YouTube so that the full situation can be seen and openly discussed.

I believe players deserve full transparency, and I hope Chess.com will allow honest discussions without editing out the main points.

Your opponents can not impact the clock.

Any clock issues you see are related to lag, lag compensation, and/or disconnects.

https://support.chess.com/article/423-why-did-the-clock-times-suddenly-change-the-clocks-seem-broken

I understand what you are saying about lag, but what I recorded is not just a normal lag effect. In my video, the clock actually moves in an anti-clockwise direction —

You will save yourself a lot of aggrevation if you LEARN how the site works.

The clock that you see on your computer screen is NOT the actual game clock. It is only an estimate.

How could it possibly be the actual clock? There might be a hundred thousand people all playing chess at the same time as you. What sort of super-computer would chess-com need, to handle a hundred thousand Internet lines all at the same time?

The chess-com games manager only connects to you at the moment the moves are made, either yours or the opponents. It SENDS you the actual game time at that moment. Then your own computer manages the clock on your screen... but your own computer CANNOT correct for your opponent's lag, because there is never any direct connection between the opponent's computer and yours. YOU connect to the server. THEY connect to the server. Not to each other.

So each time that you or your opponent makes a move, chess-com updates both clocks, yours and the opponent's, to the ACTUAL game times from the master server. Sometimes this means no apparent adjustment. Sometimes it means an adjustment forward... and sometimes backward. It depends on the difference between your lag and the opponent's lag.

So yes, sometimes the clock will appear to move backwards.

Do you have any idea how you sound, making THREATS just because you don't understand how the system works?

I understand your explanation about server clocks and lag adjustments. But the real issue is this: the problem is happening only on my side, not on my opponent’s side. In almost every match I play, my moves get delayed or frozen for a moment, while my opponent’s clock and moves work smoothly.

If it were just a normal lag or synchronization issue, then both players should experience it equally. But when the effect consistently happens only to me and not to my opponent, that’s not fair play. This isn’t about misunderstanding how the system works — it’s about an issue that is affecting one side differently, and it should be looked into and solved

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If your opponent is experiencing lag as well, they can also see the same thing. Your clock could also move back some, since the server does not count all of your lag against you.

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blueemu wrote:

You will save yourself a lot of aggrevation if you LEARN how the site works. ...

NEVER! TICCPROW!!

I am me. I am special.

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hey, i thoueght cheeting was leigal, man...

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Bichu-1 wrote:

I understand your explanation about server clocks and lag adjustments. ...

If it were just a normal lag or synchronization issue, then both players should experience it equally. ...

No you did not understand evidently. The lag is on a particular client server connection, the client here being you. Your opponent is on another connection which may or may not be lagging.

Bichu talking to me? Sorry couldn't resist ...

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Martin_Stahl wrote:

If your opponent is experiencing lag as well, they can also see the same thing. Your clock could also move back some, since the server does not count all of your lag against you.

If this were purely about lag and server compensation, then the effect should be visible on both sides equally. But in my case, the issue is happening in almost every game only to me, while my opponent’s timer always looks smooth and consistent.

Also, if lag compensation was really working the same way for everyone, then sometimes my opponent’s clock should also appear to “jump back” or freeze — but I have never seen that.

So it doesn’t make sense to say it’s just lag. This shows the system is handling my side differently, and that’s exactly why I’m raising this issue — because it’s not fair when the same rules don’t apply equally.

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Bichu-1 wrote:

I understand your explanation about server clocks and lag adjustments. But the real issue is this: the problem is happening only on my side, not on my opponent’s side. In almost every match I play, my moves get delayed or frozen for a moment, while my opponent’s clock and moves work smoothly.

If it were just a normal lag or synchronization issue, then both players should experience it equally. But when the effect consistently happens only to me and not to my opponent, that’s not fair play. This isn’t about misunderstanding how the system works — it’s about an issue that is affecting one side differently, and it should be looked into and solved

That's only true if you faced about as many opponents with more lag as you have opponents with less lag.

But what if your internet connection is coming from the other side of the world, like say... India?

Then you would only face a random assortment of equal-lag opponents if you were matched against another player from the same region. If you were playing opponents from Europe or America, their lag would be FAR shorter than yours... because the connection is NOT peer-to-peer (it's NOT a connection from you to your opponent) - the connections are from you to the server (high latency) and from your opponent to the server (low latency).

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Bichu-1 wrote:

If this were purely about lag and server compensation, then the effect should be visible on both sides equally. But in my case, the issue is happening in almost every game only to me, while my opponent’s timer always looks smooth and consistent.

Also, if lag compensation was really working the same way for everyone, then sometimes my opponent’s clock should also appear to “jump back” or freeze — but I have never seen that.

So it doesn’t make sense to say it’s just lag. This shows the system is handling my side differently, and that’s exactly why I’m raising this issue — because it’s not fair when the same rules don’t apply equally.

It's applied the same for everyone, but not everyone has the same connection quality. It's also about potential disconnects as well as lag.

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what happend while i was gone

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