Chess Hustlers

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IpswichMatt

Hello Chess People

I've been reading about chess hustlers today on the interweb...has anyone got first hand experience of playing these guys that they'd like to share?

Matt

masimon

Here's a little info Tico! It's a short doc about the chess players of Washington Square Park and how they feel about the title "hustler" with a little explanation of their place in the city - https://vimeo.com/33945100

ChessMarkstheSpot

   The people at Washington Sq. in NYC are notorious, just watch Searching for BobbyFischer.But they are some great players though. I'm going to try to make a trip there, perhaps in the Fall and do a blog report on it with pictures and maybe an interview or two if I feel comfortable enough. In the past Washington Sq. has had a shade, seedy feel to it with things of an illegal sort but supposedly it's been cleaned up since.

   -Mark

VladimirHerceg91

VladimirHerceg91

urk
I've played some, although I don't like playing for money.
They're usually B-level players with an inflated opinion of their skills.

In San Francisco I played a true hustler and got paid.
VladimirHerceg91
urk wrote:
I've played some, although I don't like playing for money.
They're usually B-level players with an inflated opinion of their skills.

In San Francisco I played a true hustler and got paid.

What is a B-level player? What is their rating elo wise? 

urk
1600-1800
VladimirHerceg91
urk wrote:
1600-1800

So they're actually pretty good. I mean I don't think I'll ever get to that level in all honesty even if I play everyday. 

urk
Yes, you can.
It's not that hard.
If you're interested in the game over a period of years and put a little work into it you should get there.
The street players have never cracked open a chess book but some of them got pretty good purely by playing. I don't recommend it though.
thegreat_patzer

b= about 1800 ish

 

you can google it if you want to be more precise.

but yeah.

NO where near a GM.

 

 Vlad.  that was a cool vid- really like Marice beating the dude.

so.;... I guess there sometimes not honest either.

penandpaper0089
VladimirHerceg91 wrote:
 

This is why I don't like playing chess hustlers. They take the game too seriously and sometimes they'll cheat. I'll never play for money because I don't gamble and because I don't expect them to be sportsmanlike when money is on the line. They're not all like that but when they are they're really annoying to play against.

VladimirHerceg91
thegreat_patzer wrote:

b= about 1800 ish

 

you can google it if you want to be more precise.

but yeah.

NO where near a GM.

 

 Vlad.  that was a cool vid- really like Marice beating the dude.

so.;... I guess there sometimes not honest either.

No that's what I would be scared of. Their sleight of hand is probably so well rehearsed, that it might be hard for a common person to spot it. When he did it in the video, it was super confusing and I wouldn't have noticed it. The GM did a great job on calling him out on it. But I guess a GM always has the board projected in his head. 

llama
urk wrote:
Yes, you can.
It's not that hard.

I don't know... that seems misleading. And when I was new it was always annoying to read people saying how easy it was to be ____ rating.

VladimirHerceg91
urk wrote:
Yes, you can.
It's not that hard.
If you're interested in the game over a period of years and put a little work into it you should get there.
The street players have never cracked open a chess book but some of them got pretty good purely by playing. I don't recommend it though.

Yeah I think I should crack open a chess book one day. 

stanhope13
stanhope13

penandpaper0089
VladimirHerceg91 wrote:
thegreat_patzer wrote:

b= about 1800 ish

 

you can google it if you want to be more precise.

but yeah.

NO where near a GM.

 

 Vlad.  that was a cool vid- really like Marice beating the dude.

so.;... I guess there sometimes not honest either.

No that's what I would be scared of. Their sleight of hand is probably so well rehearsed, that it might be hard for a common person to spot it. When he did it in the video, it was super confusing and I wouldn't have noticed it. The GM did a great job on calling him out on it. But I guess a GM always has the board projected in his head. 

Maurice grew up playing people like that so he knows the tricks. Some guys give away the fact  that they can do it by castling with this method so you can at least be warned against some people.

president_max

don't mess with hustlers

urk
It's pretty fascinating to hear Maurice talk about his early chess life playing the hustler types everyday. Some of them studied a bit and were really good.

After awhile he beat them all and became recognized for his extraordinary potential.
But he also studied a lot more than they ever did.