Chess is a Repetitive game that does not require high intelligence

I don't know about the rest of you; however, I do know that when I've finished playing a challenging game, my brain hurts.

If chess DID require high intelligente, then we have already achieved an extremely high level of artificial intelligence.

Since Deep Blue and such have chess mastered, does that mean they have high intelligence?

I say no.

you know what's interesting about Fischer though? most of his friends and few close associates said that he wasn't really that remarkable in anything but chess really. they said he was a very bright individual but it wasn't until you saw him play a game of chess that you realized his genius.

I would have to say that the game of chess just to be played at a decent level does not require high intelligence just hard study and lots of playing experience. Now to play at a master level you may have to have a little better than average intelligence.i wouldn't know because i dont play at a master level.(yet!.. workin on it though! lol :)

Deep Blue didn't build itself and sit there learning chess.  It was given a set of guidelines by a highly intelligent human on how to play.  Don't confuse the mechanism of play with the intelligence behind it.

If I moved all my pieces with a stick, would you say it didn't take intelligence because the stick made all the moves?

He must be pretty new to the game to have that kind of misconception.

I agree. It's a lot like posting in the forums.

Just learn how the pieces move - and you can play chess.

There is obvious an element of repetition as there is in general life or in science, computer programming etc, in that if we have a problem here we will usually see if we recognise the problem as one we have had before or whether there exists already a "solution" somewhere else. We may also try to recognise a pattern or use a solution from a similar but different problem etc.

Intelligence is needed partly from deciding to use an existing solution or "create" a new one. If we are solving a chess puzzle we may at first see if it has solution or idea we recognise from a previous puzzle, and if not try to find a new one.

If you could store billions of chess games and easily access this it may be possible to reduce chess to mainly repetition ie playing best move from a stored chess game but that assumes could deduce at what point was one move better than another move in all of the possible games to choose from.

Intelligence takes many different forms. Just because say someone is great at maths doesn’t mean they are good at English etc. And again here we recognise similar existing  “solutions” or patterns. Chess does take intelligence but not the same as say to write a novel etc.

As much as I want to defend all chess players please spell your words correctly in all your comments- don't give this simpleton any ammo for that ridiculous comment!

Perhaps the true answer is that repetition is one of the most basic foundations of intelligence...

and now that this topic has gotten past page one people will not read the original comment and post serious replies

What is intelligence? Can anyone answer that? After all and think about this before you reply, not knowing does not make you unintelligent, its just that 'you don't know what you don't know'!

How do you know that?

it is a repetitive game that does not require inteligence, but there are so many possabilities that the probability that a dumb guy will make a good move is too low.

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     trying to play chess without intelligence is like trying to fire a

          weapon without ammunition

        I believe people with average intelligence can eventually learn to play chess at a high level. People with a high IQ seem

 to learn faster.

Sounds like me! I am a qualified staff nurse, I have a degree in computers so I must have some intelligence. But ..... I also have Narcolepsy (a sleep disorder) which means my brain works just that bit slower than everyone else's. At the moment I don't play any games shorter than 15 minutes cos I can't think fast enough - yet. I also find my chess is repetitive in that I am repeatedly thrashed. But that is how I learn. Even my game is slowly improving.

P.S. can you get me a game against the monkey? I might have a chance of winning!

The way Ive been playing lately,,,I would loose against the monkey as well...lol

You and me both!

I've seen so many coffeehouse wood pushers who not only repeated games a thousand times but they repeated their openings for forty years. Chess isn't good for the human psyche because it breeds obsessiveness and anger. I know a guy who is now 70 and for 50 years he's played the French and the Benoni ... SOLELY. When I was 30 I won the U2000 category of the US Amateur Championship and then just a year later I stopped playing until I was 68. I'm now 72 and I'd much rather watch GMs review GM games and could care less about playing myself. George Bernard Shaw was right about chess i.e., it's a waste of time played by people who fancy themselves clever.

'Chess never has been and never can be aught but a recreation. It should not be indulged in to the detriment of other and more serious avocations - should not absorb or engross the thoughts of those who worship at its shrine, but should be kept in the background, and restrained within its proper province. As a mere game, a relaxation from the severe pursuits of life, it is deserving of high commendation.' - Morphy