Chess will never be solved, here's why

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nert is nun-even-red-triangle. cogs is can-odd-green-square.

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Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

i luv reading Opti's stuff when he posts abt philosophy. He's sooo knowledgeable. and I thank u for the education !

I think he does okay when he talks about the philosophers - but not philosophy itself.

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Elroch wrote:
DiogenesDue wrote:
Elroch wrote:
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ChessAGC_YT wrote:

guys?

Is this where you jump in to say "stop it now!!!"?

You need to be careful about that...you're going to become a meme like "Leave Brittany alone!!!".

You know that is part of France, right?

I make no apologies for not knowing more about Britney Spears. In fact, I consider it a triumph .

You really should know about Brittany, though.

I really enjoyed my stay in St. Malo. The moules frites were the best I ever had

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Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

nert is nun-even-red-triangle. cogs is can-odd-green-square.

I love bonkers

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I had a great trip across France. North to South. From Boulogne.
And then the Riviera. And back to Calais.

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playerafar wrote:
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

i luv reading Opti's stuff when he posts abt philosophy. He's sooo knowledgeable. and I thank u for the education !

I think he does okay when he talks about the philosophers - but not philosophy itself.

If you don't understand any propositions I come out with, you can ask. That's a stage in social navigation you could tick off. It could be the can-odd-greeen-squares.

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Optimissed wrote:
playerafar wrote:
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

i luv reading Opti's stuff when he posts abt philosophy. He's sooo knowledgeable. and I thank u for the education !

I think he does okay when he talks about the philosophers - but not philosophy itself.

If you don't understand any propositions I come out with, you can ask. That's a stage in social navigation you could tick off. It could be the can-odd-greeen-squares.

When you can't spot your own errors you can keep pretending you never make them.
Now come on - get bothered. Break down in your usual fashion.
I'll be back in a while to check on your downward progress.

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playerafar wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
playerafar wrote:
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

i luv reading Opti's stuff when he posts abt philosophy. He's sooo knowledgeable. and I thank u for the education !

I think he does okay when he talks about the philosophers - but not philosophy itself.

If you don't understand any propositions I come out with, you can ask. That's a stage in social navigation you could tick off. It could be the can-odd-greeen-squares.

When you can't spot your own errors you can keep pretending you never make them.
Now come on - get bothered. Break down in your usual fashion.
I'll be back in a while to check on your downward progress.

All I'm going to say is that you lasted approximately a day and a half trying to remain rational, which I applaud. Well done. The first time, if you remember, you lasted an hour and a half before getting confused into making personal attacks. Well done.

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I'm wondering if playerafar is shared.

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Thinking he answered me with a lot of anger when I pointed out a small mistake Dio may have made and then very much answered in the style of Dio ... ie re. "downward progress" assumptions.

I think "holding it together" is an issue for some.

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I think moving pieces is the essence of chess. Not like a pigeon would of course . But moving things and capital cities is part of life in general

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0962629824001033#:~:text=In%20Equatorial%20Guinea%

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Elroch wrote:
DiogenesDue wrote:
Elroch wrote:
DiogenesDue wrote:
ChessAGC_YT wrote:

guys?

Is this where you jump in to say "stop it now!!!"?

You need to be careful about that...you're going to become a meme like "Leave Brittany alone!!!".

You know that is part of France, right?

I make no apologies for not knowing more about Britney Spears. In fact, I consider it a triumph .

You really should know about Brittany, though.

I do, Brittany Mahomes, who is more recently popular in the news here and may have influenced my spelling of Brittany as it pertains to the set of "blonde women who seem a little out of their depth a lot of the time".

The things I do know about Brittany fall under Bretagne in my thinking .

As for France, not a fan, so I have only heard of Brittany in passing. I do know Brest, but mainly because it's where Britain always lands their sneak attack on France in Diplomacy...Winter: Fleet English Channel convoys Army London to Brest. In Europe I have less interest in Germany, France, or Eastern Europe (outside of Vienna) in general. My time in Paris was decent enough, but I preferred Belgium and The Netherlands.

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i think it allready solved mostt of combinations, of human inputs ...

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I was just about to post about the size of the task of solving chess and after that nice reminder from the moderator - well this is very relevant.
I looked up the number of years in a trillion seconds.
Its over 30,000 years.
So if a solving computer can perform a trillion operations per second -
Then in those 30,000 years it can perform a trillion trillion operations.
But those are just 'operations' - not positions.
And there's fifty million trillion trillion trillion chess positions.
So if it could average solving one position per operation (it can't and its much slower than that) but say it could)
then it would 'only' take the computer fifty million trillion x 30,000 years to solve all of chess!
1.5 trillion trillion years is all it would take!

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Let's try to keep the thread on track with relevant discussions to the topic, instead of derailing towards pointing fingers that add nothing of value.

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Wind wrote:

Let's try to keep the thread on track with relevant discussions to the topic, instead of derailing towards pointing fingers that add nothing of value.

Agreed. I am less than comfortable with things happening with my name attached when I am not involved.

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Optimissed wrote:

That's a bit of a stretch because it means that no-one can have any opinion on the best methodology for solving it. Why give or ask for opinions on correct methodology if they are to carry no weight?

And are you saying that your opinions aren't subjective?

No, I am referring to the actual solving of chess, not the discussion of how to solve chess. A clear distinction. Thus the word "actual". My word choices are deliberate.

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Optimissed wrote:

Thinking he answered me with a lot of anger when I pointed out a small mistake Dio may have made and then very much answered in the style of Dio ... ie re. "downward progress" assumptions.

I think "holding it together" is an issue for some.

Back to crazytown, I see. I have never referred to spurring any downward progress from you, nor is there any reason to do so. Your trajectories are self-generated, always.

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I remarked on that. The word 'actual'.

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DiogenesDue wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

Thinking he answered me with a lot of anger when I pointed out a small mistake Dio may have made and then very much answered in the style of Dio ... ie re. "downward progress" assumptions.

I think "holding it together" is an issue for some.

Back to crazytown, I see. I have never referred to spurring any downward progress from you, nor is there any reason to do so. Your trajectories are self-generated, always.

I have reported your verbal abuse and I'm not going to comment on your infirmities except to say I knew you can't hold it together.