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Do you find you get bullied by higher ranked players on the chess board?

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How do you feel about having your butt kicked regularly by stronger chess players?  Have you considered letting your parents, the principal or authorities know about it so they might intervene before the problem gets out of control?

tlumsden

You need to play weaker or similar strenght players. 
There is a setting where you can choose the range

of ratings for your oppentent, 

Dark_N_Stormy_Knight

If you aren't playing players better than you and  losing, you aren't learning anything.  Nothing can be learned from success only.

Knightly_News
Dark_N_Stormy_Knight wrote:

If you aren't playing players better than you and  losing, you aren't learning anything.  Nothing can be learned from success only.

I could spend my whole life not learning from constant success without regretting a minute of it :-)

Dark_N_Stormy_Knight

That is impossible.  You cannot learn from success.  Study or losing are your only two alternatives.

Knightly_News
Dark_N_Stormy_Knight wrote:

That is impossible.  You cannot learn from success.  Study or losing are your only two alternatives.

Did you misread what I wrote?  It was a tongue in cheek way of saying that if I was succeeding constantly at everything, there would be little need to learn.  Unless you're saying that would be unprecedented, in which case I'd say, if you'll believe that, you'll also believe perpetual motion is impossible. And I'll see that when I believe it!

Jase684
reflectivist wrote:
Dark_N_Stormy_Knight wrote:

If you aren't playing players better than you and  losing, you aren't learning anything.  Nothing can be learned from success only.

I could spend my whole life not learning from constant success without regretting a minute of it :-)

What would be the point though? Without failure how can you ever strive to better yourself. Personally i dont have enough of an ego to have an issue with losing to stronger or weaker players as long as it makes you think where did i go wrong or what did they do right whats the problem? Its just a game after all and the reason most of us play it is because its a constantly evolving puzzle that challenges us and makes use our brains.

Dark_N_Stormy_Knight

I'm so accustomed to chutzpah I sometimes miss tongue in cheek .  My apologies.  

Dark_N_Stormy_Knight

Although I've rewritten that as Pawn in Cheek.

Phylar
reflectivist wrote:
Dark_N_Stormy_Knight wrote:

If you aren't playing players better than you and  losing, you aren't learning anything.  Nothing can be learned from success only.

I could spend my whole life not learning from constant success without regretting a minute of it :-)

Insanity - ain't it grand? :P

Dark_N_Stormy_Knight

Your's is so much more eloquent than mine.

Knightly_News
Dark_N_Stormy_Knight wrote:

I'm so accustomed to chutzpah I sometimes miss tongue in cheek .  My apologies.  

You'll learn when not to take me seriously (e.g. often) soon enough, my friend! And I can tell already, I like you.  You seem like one of those genuinely wise people who is a good sport as well.

Vashire

I feel that the only way to really get better is to play against stronger opponents. My problem comes from finding stronger opponents who are willing to play with me constantly. 

 

Looking back over the past year though, There has been one great player who has played with me a lot, and I am noticing my game improving by small measures every game. So, I think the bigger the gap, the more time it takes for you to adapt, but in return, you learn things that you wouldn't otherwise learn for quite some time. 

ilikeflags

thegrobe bullies me

Dark_N_Stormy_Knight

Those who play chess and are NOT good sports are the ones who let their clocks run out to keep their opponent from enjoying the moment at mate.  Sorry Charlie, the moment was a long time ago.

Dark_N_Stormy_Knight

Grobe: Noun: A hellish nightmare, usually induced by excessive drug use, especially hallucenogenic mushrooms.  That would cause bullying I'm sure.

polygamous_king

One thing I've wondering is whether you learn more by playing against a opponent that is absolutely way above you, or against someone more or less at the same level, only sightly better.

 

The latter is more or less obviously preferable as a leisure activity for most, and this may even contribute to faster learning than doing something that seems doomed to fail, but I wonder how would differ the rate of progress of people training under these different regimes. Specially if the ones training against an unbeatable opponent just don't find it frustrating (which is unlikely, but perhaps could be achieved by motivation of believing it's the most efficient way to improve (coupled with wanting to seriously improve), or money rewards for small improvements, if we're talking of some scientific study with this kind of resource).

Dark_N_Stormy_Knight

I agree to the principle.  I think at a certain spread of points you are getting blindsided more than a real give and take.  My guess is over 200 points and you haven't got a clue what is really happening.  

Knightly_News
Dark_N_Stormy_Knight wrote:

I agree to the principle.  I think at a certain spread of points you are getting blindsided more than a real give and take.  My guess is over 200 points and you haven't got a clue what is really happening.  

Makes sense (that it doesn't make sense). I think you got it right

Dark_N_Stormy_Knight

I don't recognize that galazy reflectivist, which is it?